Mounting a toolmakers vice on milling machine

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Mounting a toolmakers vice on milling machine Paul M 03-29-2008
Posted by Richard Edwards on March 29, 2008, 11:11 pm
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>On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:13:55 -0700 (PDT), colin.wildgust@virgin.net
>wrote:
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>Hi Folks
>
>Thanks for some good ideas - I will have a play during my week off
>from work.

B' hell, if you need a week off from work to clock the vice then I can
see why you want buttons! <G>
Enjoy it, if you are like me you will not get half done of whats on
your list!

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Richard

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Posted by Paul M on March 30, 2008, 9:05 am
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Hi Richard

Yes I already have loads of stuff on my to do list if I sort out 1/3
of it I will be happy.

Thanks again

Paul
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:13:55 -0700 (PDT), colin.wildgust@virgin.net
>>wrote:
>>
>>Hi Folks
>>
>>Thanks for some good ideas - I will have a play during my week off
>>from work.
>
>B' hell, if you need a week off from work to clock the vice then I can
>see why you want buttons! <G>
>Enjoy it, if you are like me you will not get half done of whats on
>your list!


Posted by Charles Lamont on March 30, 2008, 9:22 am
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> I`m looking for a way to enable me to mount my small toolmakers vice
> quickly onto my milling machine without having to clock it every time.
> On most of my other stuff I have mounted a couple of steel " Buttons"
> which mount in the T slot of the table and then its just a matter of
> clampming the item to the table. I was going to do the same with the
> toolmakers vice but the steel is hardened and my centre drill would
> not touch it. I bought the vice from Chronos and the blurb reads :
>
> Jaw Width - 75 mm Jaw Opening - 100 mm

> I have mounted the vice in a larger vice but this loses me some height
> on the table.

How about fixing it to a base plate, say 3/8 thick, with locating pegs
or key underneath (and on top if you sometimes want to use it without).

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Charles Lamont

Posted by Paul M on March 31, 2008, 8:15 am
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Hi Charles

I usually make the buttons removable by drilling and tappling the base
of the item and then drilling and counterboring the buttons.
This means if I need to fit the vice at a angle etc. I can simply
unbolt the two buttons and my vice is virtually standard.
The problem that I have is that the vice is hardened to HRC 55 -60
according to the vendors site and I have not been able to drill (or
tap!) the base of the vice - I was wondering if solid carbide drills
would drill this hardness of material?

Cheers

Paul
>
>How about fixing it to a base plate, say 3/8 thick, with locating pegs
>or key underneath (and on top if you sometimes want to use it without).


Posted by the wizard on March 30, 2008, 3:23 pm
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> Hi Folks
>
> I`m looking for a way to enable me to mount my small toolmakers vice
> quickly onto my milling machine without having to clock it every time.
> On most of my other stuff I have mounted a couple of steel " Buttons"
> which mount in the T slot of the table and then its just a matter of
> clampming the item to the table. =A0I was going to do the same with the
> toolmakers vice but the steel is hardened and my centre drill would
> not touch it. =A0I bought the vice from Chronos and the blurb reads :
>
> 75 mm Pin Type Precision Vice
> Ref: PTV1
>
> These pin type vices are made of hardened steel 55-60HRC and are
> precision ground all over. The rapid positioning notches allow the
> vice to be locked in any position by means of a hex key. V grooves in
> the sliding jaw both horizontal & vertical facilitate the holding of
> round jobs.Superb quality.
> Jaw Width - 75 mm Jaw Opening - 100 mm
>
> I was thinking that the hardness would only be surface deep and would
> it it possible to drill around HRC 60 with a solid carbide drill?
>
> I have mounted the vice in a larger vice but this loses me some height
> on the table.
>
> I also thought of "glueing" the buttons on to the vice with loctite or
> araldite as they take no strain due to the vice being bolted to the
> table - =A0any ideas welcome.
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> Paul

Hi Paul,
Why do you want to keep fitting your vice, why not leave it in place.
I leave my vice, same size as yours, on the table almost all off the
time, as most of my work will fit in the vice. Here I must say that I
don't put the vice in the middle of the table but about a third of the
way to one end or the other. This allows other fittings to be fitted
at the other end. When I have to demount the vice, I put it back
towards the other end of the table, this evens up the wear on lead
screw, or at least should. On my 626 table, with vice fitted, I still
have room for either a rotary table or a spin indexer, without
upsetting the accuracy of the vice.
T.W.

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