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OT: Lawnmower operator presence control Christopher Tidy 08-01-2008
Posted by Christopher Tidy on August 1, 2008, 11:34 pm
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Hi folks,

I'm hoping someone here can answer a legal question for me, as I can't
find the answer online. A friend told me recently that if you have a
lawnmower, and pay someone to use it, it must be fitted with an operator
presence control. That is, one of those levers you have to hold onto,
and if you let go of it the engine stops. Personally I find them an
annoyance. Does anyone know if this is true?

Many thanks,

Chris


Posted by Stephen Howard on August 2, 2008, 8:09 am
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:33:35 +0000, Christopher Tidy

>Stephen Howard wrote:
>
>> I know that all new electric mowers are now required to have such
>> devices, but I haven't heard anything similar pertaining to petrol
>> mowers.
>
>I think electric mowers have always been designed this way, as you can
>stop and start them with a switch. But with a petrol mower it's much
>more of a nuisance because of the extra effort required to start the
>engine again.
>
>> BS EN 836:1997 states that "For pedestrian controlled machines the
>> control handle should automatically stop blade rotation when the
>> operator's hands are removed. " - but that's currently just a
>> standard.
>
>Indeed. So machine built since 1997 must have this feature. But that
>alone doesn't mean that older machines are illegal to use.

Is it a 'must' or a 'should'? I thought it was only applicable if you
wanted to conform to the standard - I'm not sure it's a requirement?
>
<snip>
>>
>> Personally I tend to 'semi-deactivate' the "dead man's handle" with a
>> strip of aluminium bent over the handle in a figure of 9 fashion. It
>> can be flicked off quickly and easily yet still enables the mower to
>> be left running while I empty the grassbox.
>
>For the time being, it is just a matter of curiousity, as we cut the
>grass ourselves. But I'm interested to know if it's true, as I was told
>that it was the reason for many older machines being retired from local
>authorities and cricket clubs, etc.
>
>In some ways, it would seem odd if it was a legal requirement. After
>all, there's no such device on a tractor, which could potentially cause
>much more damage if it went astray.

I'm inclined to think it's more about which bored bureaucrat could be
bothered to do any 'work' on any given day.
>
>Personally I find it annoying having to hold onto that lever.

The better ones have a bar that sits above the handle - at least you
then have the weight of your hands in play.
Where I see models fitted with a dead man's handle at the local tip,
there's nearly always a plant tie attached to the handle - so I think
it's a fairly common annoyance.

Regards,



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Posted by Peter Parry on August 2, 2008, 1:46 pm
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:34:06 +0000, Christopher Tidy

>Personally I find them an
>annoyance. Does anyone know if this is true?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3428410.ece


Posted by Stephen Howard on August 2, 2008, 5:22 pm
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wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:34:06 +0000, Christopher Tidy
>
>>Personally I find them an
>>annoyance. Does anyone know if this is true?
>
>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3428410.ece

Ouch.
I wonder if the mower was a Japanese model...would have made a great
headline...

Handa Hunda Honda.

Could have had almost a full house if he'd been a Hindu.

Regards,



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http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
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Posted by Cliff Coggin on August 2, 2008, 2:12 pm
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> Hi folks,
>
> I'm hoping someone here can answer a legal question for me, as I can't
> find the answer online. A friend told me recently that if you have a
> lawnmower, and pay someone to use it, it must be fitted with an operator
> presence control. That is, one of those levers you have to hold onto, and
> if you let go of it the engine stops. Personally I find them an annoyance.
> Does anyone know if this is true?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>

Whether it is obligatory to have such a cut-out I don't know. What is fairly
certain is that should you employ somebody to use that mower with the
cut-out deliberately disabled, then you would be guilty of wilful neglect of
that person's safety and therefore liable to pay compensation in the event
of injury.

Like most people I regard it as a damn nuisance and tie it up with a plant
tie. The one on my hedge trimmer is even worse because it incorporates a
brake with a powerful spring, making it ridiulously heavy to hold up, and
tiring on the fingers to clench both triggers.

Cliff Coggin.



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