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Power Factor and New Power Company Digi Meters mark 09-28-2006
Posted by mark on September 28, 2006, 8:20 am
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Should I worry about this .

Does anyone here, have reason to doubt if these things, "correct"...
for power factor .

My "units used" seems to have gone up since this meter was swapped from
the old mechanical one.

All the best.....mark


Posted by Norman Billingham on September 29, 2006, 5:10 am
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> Should I worry about this .
>
> Does anyone here, have reason to doubt if these things, "correct"...
> for power factor .
>
> My "units used" seems to have gone up since this meter was swapped from
> the old mechanical one.


Whether or not they correct for power factor I don't know, but I suspect
they are just a lot more sensitive to low currents. Our old mechanical one
would not noticeably rotate even with things like VCR on standby and the
bell transformer drawing current. I suspect the new one sees everything.
Haven't attempted to calculate how much extra that would be.



Posted by Greg on September 29, 2006, 9:30 am
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>
> > Should I worry about this .
> >
> > Does anyone here, have reason to doubt if these things, "correct"...
> > for power factor .
> >
> > My "units used" seems to have gone up since this meter was swapped from
> > the old mechanical one.

Both old and new measure true power, though there are moves afoot to meter
kVAr's as well because of the increasingly bad power factors of modern
loads. Industrially they already meter kVAr's but the technology to do it
domestically was too expensive, not any more.
Greg



Posted by mark on September 29, 2006, 9:49 am
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Greg wrote:
> >
> > > Should I worry about this .
> > >
> > > Does anyone here, have reason to doubt if these things, "correct"...
> > > for power factor .
> > >
> > > My "units used" seems to have gone up since this meter was swapped fr=
om
> > > the old mechanical one.
>
> Both old and new measure true power, though there are moves afoot to meter
> kVAr's as well because of the increasingly bad power factors of modern
> loads. Industrially they already meter kVAr's but the technology to do it
> domestically was too expensive, not any more.
> Greg


I ask all this because I'm in dispute with power company (BRITISH GAS)
over this

suddenly having power bills of =A3300

when average before digi meter was under =A3170 ish

used the lathe yesterday for one hour ...it's on a rotary converter.

lathe is 2 hp converter is rated at 5.5 hp

20 units used in 24 hours according to the new meter.
didn't do any cooking ...only TV and lights, computer and lathe used in
the 24 hours.


All i ask people to do is ...check their digital meter when operating
things with windings etc .

Just so that I've got something to back up me up when on the phone to
them.


all the best...mark


Posted by Tim Leech on September 29, 2006, 10:12 am
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wrote:

>
>Greg wrote:
>> >
>> > > Should I worry about this .
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone here, have reason to doubt if these things, "correct"...
>> > > for power factor .
>> > >
>> > > My "units used" seems to have gone up since this meter was swapped from
>> > > the old mechanical one.
>>
>> Both old and new measure true power, though there are moves afoot to meter
>> kVAr's as well because of the increasingly bad power factors of modern
>> loads. Industrially they already meter kVAr's but the technology to do it
>> domestically was too expensive, not any more.
>> Greg
>
>
>I ask all this because I'm in dispute with power company (BRITISH GAS)
>over this
>
>suddenly having power bills of £300
>
>when average before digi meter was under £170 ish
>
>used the lathe yesterday for one hour ...it's on a rotary converter.
>
>lathe is 2 hp converter is rated at 5.5 hp
>
>20 units used in 24 hours according to the new meter.
>didn't do any cooking ...only TV and lights, computer and lathe used in
>the 24 hours.
>
>
>All i ask people to do is ...check their digital meter when operating
>things with windings etc .
>
>Just so that I've got something to back up me up when on the phone to
>them.
>
>
>all the best...mark

My consumption certainly appeared to rise after the meter was changed.

Tim
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