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Re: Computer power usage max 01-07-2008
Posted by on January 7, 2008, 9:19 am
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 Does not Windows have some nonsense about complaining if certain components
are changed? Something
to do with not installing on multiple machines?

Might be worth querying a Gates' World FAQ site?

MH

Posted by Lester Caine on January 7, 2008, 9:47 am
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 max@hotmail.com wrote:
> Does not Windows have some nonsense about complaining if certain components
> are changed? Something
> to do with not installing on multiple machines?
Hit that one every time I replace a hard disk or motherboard.
M$ keep insisting that I need a new licence, but it's the *SAME* machine so
the *EXISTING* licence is still legal. After a repair job, the machine will
not allow you to update or authenticate via the internet. So you switch to the
phone - run through the manual activate until you get told that you are a
pirate - *THEN* when you ring back again you can get at an operator who will
sort you out.

> Might be worth querying a Gates' World FAQ site?
Why waste the time. They never listen :(
I'm expecting even more fun with Vista, but perhaps we can convince M$ that
*REPAIRING* a computer does not make you a pirate and get them to provide a
*SIMPLE* phone number for activating a repaired machine !!!!

And the laptop is working fine with a fan bolted on the bottom :) I wiped the
old hard disk and rebuilt it and it seems to be OK *AND* I did not have a
problem activating windows which *IS* a first :)

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Posted by Prepair Ltd on January 7, 2008, 10:46 am
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>max@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Does not Windows have some nonsense about complaining if certain components
>> are changed? Something
>> to do with not installing on multiple machines?
>Hit that one every time I replace a hard disk or motherboard.

Surely if you have the original CD, it is just a matter of running install
again?

Never had that one yet, but we do have half a dozen legit Win2kPro installation
packs to use.

Peter
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Posted by Lester Caine on January 7, 2008, 11:30 am
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Prepair Ltd wrote:
>
>> max@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Does not Windows have some nonsense about complaining if certain components
>>> are changed? Something
>>> to do with not installing on multiple machines?
>> Hit that one every time I replace a hard disk or motherboard.
>
> Surely if you have the original CD, it is just a matter of running install
> again?
'Product activation' - on XP this generates a security key based on the
hardware, once that key is activated against the serial number you can't
change any key hardware. So installing again on a new hard disk gives trouble.
ADD to that the fact that the serial number may be locked to a particular
installation CD - which the customer may not even have been supplied with -
and you then have even more fun :(

> Never had that one yet, but we do have half a dozen legit Win2kPro installation
> packs to use.
No problem with W2k - in fact I keep dropping back to that if the XP key will
not work!

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Posted by Archie on January 7, 2008, 6:35 pm
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> wrote:
>
>>max@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Does not Windows have some nonsense about complaining if certain
>>> components
>>> are changed? Something
>>> to do with not installing on multiple machines?
>>Hit that one every time I replace a hard disk or motherboard.
>
> Surely if you have the original CD, it is just a matter of running install
> again?
>
> Never had that one yet, but we do have half a dozen legit Win2kPro
> installation
> packs to use.

Many laptop manufactures do not provide instalation CDs. There may be in
system partition on the hard disk which allows you to re-instate the OS if
it becomes corrupt but if you need to replace the hard disk, you are fcuked.
Some laptops manufactures expect the end user to create their own recovery
cds from tools installed on the machine. I wonder how many users actually do
this?

XP cd keys.
Before (re-)installing you need the correct type of media for the Key you
have. There are three types of XP CDs- OEM, Retail Box and Volume license
and each type can be - original without any service pack, with SP1, with
SP2. A key for an OEM SP1 cd will be rejected if trying to install from an
OEM SP2 CD.

The other thing worth remembering is that OEM manufactures do not use the
serial number from the label stuck to the PC. Each manufacturer has a
generic pre-activated set of serial numbers which they use for there
machines. If you reinstall from a recovery cd provided by the manufacturer,
the serial number may be "slipsteamed" in the cd so you don't need to enter
it. If you reinstall using the serial number from the label, it will need to
be activated andmay fail the automatic process so you need to phone MS. I
found a partial list on the net once of these serial numbers for some common
OEM manufactures e.g. Dell and HP

Since there are all these potential issues with serial numbers and product
activation, Microsoft provide the means to reactivate a system even if it
means phoning them up and I have never had a problem phoning them. My guess
is that MS reccon that phoning them up will scare off most pirates that they
don't ask too many questions and just give you the code to activate you OS.
If you phone up every day trying to activate the same serial number then
maybe they will get suspicious.


Archie



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