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Posted by Prepair Ltd on January 10, 2008, 10:34 am
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>Precisely. The next OS for many currently using W2k after it drops
>off the support/update schedule in 2010 won't be XP or Vista nor I
>suspect anything Microsoft.
Have Microsoft definitely announced that Win2k is going to finish being
supported?
I can't see any reason not to keep on using it, I/we don't play games and a 1ghz
machine is fine for here in the office, soighly better/quicker at home, but you
don't need the fastest/best machine for most things, only Vista...
Peter
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Posted by on January 10, 2008, 12:26 pm
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> I can't see any reason not to keep on using it, I/we don't play games and =
a 1ghz
> machine is fine for here in the office, soighly better/quicker at home, bu=
t you
> don't need the fastest/best machine for most things, only Vista...
>
> Peter
I couldn't agree more with that point Peter; with the exception of my
son all of my family are happy with machines I build from "updated"
components. They range from 1.2 AMD duron (the cheap "braindead" one)
to the Intel E7650 Core 2 Duo 2.66Gh I'm using now. This one was
rescued from an update project that I've just completed for a lad who
plays the latest games and re-builds his machine (well I do) every 3-4
months. He is really upset that the latest version of Crysis is built
for better graphics cards than are currently available, still didn't
stop him spending the cost of a good Myford on the upgrade though. To
be honest I can't tell the difference in speed/graphics quality but he
always seems pleased for a month or two anyway!!
I have a couple of small Samsung laptops that are used for the
internet/office type work and they are both less than 1Ghz and cope
extremely well running XP (spit2 as well?) which I have to admit is
now fine as long as you keep it clean and stop it loading everything
it wants to at startup. Most upgrades I do stem from hard disk
problems where they have just become too full of crap and slow down.
Despite my best advice (I do try really) they always seem to go for a
new machine if it is more than a couple of years old. Having said that
the cost of a new very capable basic "box" can now be less than =A3200;
so by the time you have bought a replacement HD for the old one and
set it up the difference in cost is not that great. I must admit that
lately some people are now seeing that they don't need a new pc every
couple of years and that suits me fine as I'm trying to greatly reduce
my involvement in the pc building "hobby" for other reasons. I guess
it is another aspect of modern life that has moved from "repair and
upgrade" to "throw away and replace". At least that will keep me in
computers for a few years more.
Keith
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Posted by Lester Caine on January 10, 2008, 12:44 pm
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>> Precisely. The next OS for many currently using W2k after it drops
>> off the support/update schedule in 2010 won't be XP or Vista nor I
>> suspect anything Microsoft.
>
> Have Microsoft definitely announced that Win2k is going to finish being
> supported?
I think pressure from corporates in the US has forced a rethink on Microsoft's
part. Wasn't it already to have been shelved, but the delays in 'Vista' meant
they had to offer an olive branch?
All I can actually find on Microsoft's site is a reference to "The end-of-life
date for Windows 2000 will be no sooner than January 1, 2010." in relation to
the 'Update Rollup 1' for it.
The fact that IE7 is not available for W2k was supposed to pressure people
into changing, but if you don't use IE at all .....
> I can't see any reason not to keep on using it, I/we don't play games and a
1ghz
> machine is fine for here in the office, soighly better/quicker at home, but you
> don't need the fastest/best machine for most things, only Vista...
Certainly the ITX boxes with a 1.3Ghz processor work great - and only need 20W
to run :)
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Posted by Peter A Forbes on January 10, 2008, 1:09 pm
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>>Precisely. The next OS for many currently using W2k after it drops
>>off the support/update schedule in 2010 won't be XP or Vista nor I
>>suspect anything Microsoft.
>
>Have Microsoft definitely announced that Win2k is going to finish being
>supported?
>
>I can't see any reason not to keep on using it, I/we don't play games and a 1ghz
>machine is fine for here in the office, soighly better/quicker at home, but you
>don't need the fastest/best machine for most things, only Vista...
Just to finish this thread as it is a bit OT:
The best machines we have had in the past 10 years are Compaq EN SFF desktops,
they are small, extremely quiet, VERY reliable and have built in video, network
and sound.
We have 10 around the family and at the factory, great little machines and the
fastest is 1ghz, slowest 533mhz.
We are just waiting for the corporate HP D530's to come below £50 and then we
will probably start thinking about upgrading.
Peter
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Posted by Mike on January 15, 2008, 6:05 am
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:34:05 +0000, Prepair Ltd
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>>Precisely. The next OS for many currently using W2k after it drops
>>off the support/update schedule in 2010 won't be XP or Vista nor I
>>suspect anything Microsoft.
>
>Have Microsoft definitely announced that Win2k is going to finish being
>supported?
In general terms, yes, even a specific date is quoted.
See
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071
and
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect for other M$ products
>I can't see any reason not to keep on using it, I/we don't play games and a 1ghz
>machine is fine for here in the office, soighly better/quicker at home, but you
>don't need the fastest/best machine for most things, only Vista...
The only reason to stop using it is due to security concerns of the
machine is connected to the internet. If a vulnerability arises it
won't be fixed after 13/07/2010.
I think there are many more people still using W2k than M$ realise or
will publicly admit to. M$ can't be looking too closely at the W2k
licences that corporate customers are still using some 8 years after
W2k was introduced - I am aware of a number of FTSE 100 companies
where new hardware delivered with XP or more recently Vista is being
routinely wiped and W2k installed before rollout to employees.
If they make large enough hardware purchases the companies don't even
buy the 'new' OS, they just wipe then sell on the old hardware,
install W2k on the new and amend their central licence records
accordingly - all legitimate and above board.
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>suspect anything Microsoft.