Re: Kasenite case hardening

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Re: Kasenite case hardening fireicer 03-16-2008
Posted by fireicer on March 16, 2008, 12:23 pm
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hi im trying for a while now to get a case hardening solution.

i noticed that many ppl are wondering why it is so hard to get kasenite
in the UK lol well its simple have you seen what sites sell it in
America they explain why.

yes its used for repairing and rearming firearms mainly the firing pins
hence the reason why you cant get it. how do the authorities know if
your using it to manufacture and rearm disarmed weapons.

we used to use it in the armory years back when i was in the forces for
fixing you firring pins but hey there are the few in the uk that spoil
it for the rest of us and hence we now have to find alternative methods.
i found a good way to case harden is buy a cheep baking tray from
wilko's put in your item usually its the bike griper washers i harden fr
my bike.

anyway baking tin nonstick get some carbon powder you can buy it dirt
cheap fill your baking try half full heat your part cherry hot lay it on
the bed of carbon add more carbon to cover the part put it in the oven
on full for 30 mins take parts out heat again to cheery hot put them
back in, the more you do it the harder it gets do it 3 or 4 times the
quench in engine oil let cool in the oil then take it out should be
pretty hard try file it.

but hey im not a chemist so using chemicals to speed up the carbon
absorption is beyond me but yea i heard that bone meal mixed with carbon
works too but stinks rotten. mm ground to a powder bones from animals
mmm lol nice


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Posted by John Stevenson on March 16, 2008, 1:21 pm
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:23:08 -0500, fireicer

>
>hi im trying for a while now to get a case hardening solution.
>
>i noticed that many ppl are wondering why it is so hard to get kasenite
>in the UK lol well its simple have you seen what sites sell it in
>America they explain why.
>
>yes its used for repairing and rearming firearms mainly the firing pins
>hence the reason why you cant get it. how do the authorities know if
>your using it to manufacture and rearm disarmed weapons.
>


How do they know you are not turning a new barrel up ?
It's more down to H&S on the chemicals involved than a cover up.

If you do a Google for case hardening compound you will still find
links.

If you want to make your own there are many old formula's about in old
engineering books.
Blacksmiths used to heat the metal up to cherry red and dip it in the
blood of a virgin.

Not much chance of that nowdays as the last known sighting of a virgin
was on the 1926 Cadbury's outing to Blackpool.

Posted by Chris Edwards on March 16, 2008, 4:21 pm
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:21:05 GMT, John Stevenson

>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:23:08 -0500, fireicer
>
>>
>>hi im trying for a while now to get a case hardening solution.

>Blacksmiths used to heat the metal up to cherry red and dip it in the
>blood of a virgin.
>
>Not much chance of that nowdays as the last known sighting of a virgin
>was on the 1926 Cadbury's outing to Blackpool.

...and that was only on the outbound journey......
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Chris Edwards (in deepest Dorset) "....there *must* be an easier way!"


Posted by John Stevenson on March 16, 2008, 4:36 pm
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:21:56 +0000, Chris Edwards

>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:21:05 GMT, John Stevenson
>
>>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:23:08 -0500, fireicer
>>
>>>
>>>hi im trying for a while now to get a case hardening solution.
>
>>Blacksmiths used to heat the metal up to cherry red and dip it in the
>>blood of a virgin.
>>
>>Not much chance of that nowdays as the last known sighting of a virgin
>>was on the 1926 Cadbury's outing to Blackpool.
>
>...and that was only on the outbound journey......
> --
>
>Chris Edwards (in deepest Dorset) "....there *must* be an easier way!"


Oh you were on the same bus then ?

Posted by Chris Edwards on March 16, 2008, 5:00 pm
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:36:44 GMT, John Stevenson

>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:21:56 +0000, Chris Edwards
>
>>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:21:05 GMT, John Stevenson
>>
>>>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:23:08 -0500, fireicer
>>>
>>>>
>>>>hi im trying for a while now to get a case hardening solution.
>>
>>>Blacksmiths used to heat the metal up to cherry red and dip it in the
>>>blood of a virgin.
>>>
>>>Not much chance of that nowdays as the last known sighting of a virgin
>>>was on the 1926 Cadbury's outing to Blackpool.
>>
>>...and that was only on the outbound journey......
>> --
>>
>>Chris Edwards (in deepest Dorset) "....there *must* be an easier way!"

>
>Oh you were on the same bus then ?

..how else would I know..I was sitting just behind your nurse :}!

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Chris Edwards (in deepest Dorset) "....there *must* be an easier way!"


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