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Re: Small bargin and a request for help Christopher Tidy 08-21-2006
Posted by Christopher Tidy on August 21, 2006, 5:54 pm
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zedbert@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Managed to get a small bargin on the dread ebay the other day - a teeny
> mechanical hacksaw for 99p, with a 0.125hp 240v motor - not mounted of
> course.
>
> This thing uses shortened normal hacksaw blades, it's that small. Runs
> way too fast with a 1400rpm motor, going to have to rig up a
> countershaft.
>
> What is the method of calculating the required pulley sizes for a
> countershaft? I'm guessing at a speed of say 30 strokes per min. for
> the blade, how do I get that back to the 1425 of the motor?
>
> Another thing from the same seller was an old fashioned hand-cranked
> drill press. A couple of times I've used a hand drill to make small
> holes in delicate parts, but that leaves the problem of 'wandering
> holes' - not such a prob with a press, and I can go as slow as I like.
>
> The only part that's missing is the top part of the down feed ratchet -
> that is, the part that pushes the toothed wheel around. Does anyone
> have a scrap machine lying around, or am I best to fabricate the part
> from pictures?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>

I know this thread's a bit old now, but I just noticed it and thought
I'd reply.

To me 30 strokes a minute sounds rather slow for a small machine like
this. My big Q & S power hacksaw has two speeds: 100 and 150 strokes per
minute, and it takes 16 inch blades. What makes your machine seem like
it's running way too fast?

Chris


Posted by Nospam on August 21, 2006, 5:54 pm
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I fail to see why Ebay is classed as dreaded?
You got a bargain, you said so, so what's wrong with it?
I have bought and sold loads of stuff, doing myself and others good deals.
Why line the pockets of over priced tool dealers?
I'll wait for all the flack now..............
Bob
> zedbert@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Managed to get a small bargin on the dread ebay the other day - a teeny
>> mechanical hacksaw for 99p, with a 0.125hp 240v motor - not mounted of
>> course.
>>
>> This thing uses shortened normal hacksaw blades, it's that small. Runs
>> way too fast with a 1400rpm motor, going to have to rig up a
>> countershaft.
>>
>> What is the method of calculating the required pulley sizes for a
>> countershaft? I'm guessing at a speed of say 30 strokes per min. for
>> the blade, how do I get that back to the 1425 of the motor?
>>
>> Another thing from the same seller was an old fashioned hand-cranked
>> drill press. A couple of times I've used a hand drill to make small
>> holes in delicate parts, but that leaves the problem of 'wandering
>> holes' - not such a prob with a press, and I can go as slow as I like.
>>
>> The only part that's missing is the top part of the down feed ratchet -
>> that is, the part that pushes the toothed wheel around. Does anyone
>> have a scrap machine lying around, or am I best to fabricate the part
>> from pictures?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>
> I know this thread's a bit old now, but I just noticed it and thought I'd
> reply.
>
> To me 30 strokes a minute sounds rather slow for a small machine like
> this. My big Q & S power hacksaw has two speeds: 100 and 150 strokes per
> minute, and it takes 16 inch blades. What makes your machine seem like
> it's running way too fast?
>
> Chris
>



Posted by Andrew Mawson on August 21, 2006, 6:02 pm
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> I fail to see why Ebay is classed as dreaded?
> You got a bargain, you said so, so what's wrong with it?
> I have bought and sold loads of stuff, doing myself and others good
deals.
> Why line the pockets of over priced tool dealers?
> I'll wait for all the flack now..............
> Bob


Yes, I tend to agree with that comment. I've done over 600
transactions on ebay (mostly as a buyer) and the vast majority have
worked out smoothly and been satisfactory. I can only bring one to
mind that was a problem. I think that the great thing about eBay is
that you can find things that otherwise would be too obscure to
locate, particularly bits of old machine tools. I have also met a
considerable number of the 'other side' to the transaction, and
without exception the ones I have met have been decent folk.

AWEM



Posted by Nospam on August 22, 2006, 1:57 am
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Exactly, I've met some great guys, some have travelled hundreds of miles to
collect. I also have put obscure items on eBay at bargain prices more to do
someone a favour rather than make money. One example was a huge Churchill
mill, sold for £25, a Centec horizontal for £45, simply because I didn't
want them, but someone other than the scrappy did, which I hasten to add,
would have paid more!!
Bob
>
>> I fail to see why Ebay is classed as dreaded?
>> You got a bargain, you said so, so what's wrong with it?
>> I have bought and sold loads of stuff, doing myself and others good
> deals.
>> Why line the pockets of over priced tool dealers?
>> I'll wait for all the flack now..............
>> Bob
>
>
> Yes, I tend to agree with that comment. I've done over 600
> transactions on ebay (mostly as a buyer) and the vast majority have
> worked out smoothly and been satisfactory. I can only bring one to
> mind that was a problem. I think that the great thing about eBay is
> that you can find things that otherwise would be too obscure to
> locate, particularly bits of old machine tools. I have also met a
> considerable number of the 'other side' to the transaction, and
> without exception the ones I have met have been decent folk.
>
> AWEM
>
>



Posted by on August 25, 2006, 5:33 am
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Well, the 'dread' bit was a bit of a throw-away line really, although I
have seen & heard some odd & downright nasty things about ebay.
Probably a function of too many people and a lot of profit chasing,
from the owners and some sellers.

Chris, I thought the recommended speed for cutting with a hack-saw was
60 strokes per minute, so that was what I was aiming at. My big Rapidor
donkey saw certainly runs very slowly. If yours runs at 100-150, that's
a much easier target to aim for, thanks!

I rigged it (the small saw) up to test with a 1425rpm motor, so it was
running in the hundreds of strokes per minute, just far too fast for
such a tiny blade.

I'm in the process of acquiring a car wind-screen wiper motor, which
will run much slower & be much smaller. I'll see if I can get that to
run the saw at 150rpm with out a counter shaft.

Cheers all,

Ed


Nospam wrote:
> Exactly, I've met some great guys, some have travelled hundreds of miles =
to
> collect. I also have put obscure items on eBay at bargain prices more to =
do
> someone a favour rather than make money. One example was a huge Churchill
> mill, sold for =A325, a Centec horizontal for =A345, simply because I did=
n't
> want them, but someone other than the scrappy did, which I hasten to add,
> would have paid more!!
> Bob
> >
> >> I fail to see why Ebay is classed as dreaded?
> >> You got a bargain, you said so, so what's wrong with it?
> >> I have bought and sold loads of stuff, doing myself and others good
> > deals.
> >> Why line the pockets of over priced tool dealers?
> >> I'll wait for all the flack now..............
> >> Bob
> >
> >
> > Yes, I tend to agree with that comment. I've done over 600
> > transactions on ebay (mostly as a buyer) and the vast majority have
> > worked out smoothly and been satisfactory. I can only bring one to
> > mind that was a problem. I think that the great thing about eBay is
> > that you can find things that otherwise would be too obscure to
> > locate, particularly bits of old machine tools. I have also met a
> > considerable number of the 'other side' to the transaction, and
> > without exception the ones I have met have been decent folk.
> >
> > AWEM
> >
> >


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