Small taper pin turning

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Small taper pin turning MikeH_QB 08-12-2008
Posted by MikeH_QB on August 12, 2008, 3:57 am
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Hi
I need to turn a few replacement taper pins, 1 in 20 taper by about
3mm (thick end) and 20mm long.
Easy enough to turn with the compound slide set over.
The problem is I haven't a clue how to set the angle accurately enough
- I just cannot set it to two decimal places of accuracy!
I haven't got a sine bar (and doubt if I would know how to use it
anyway!)
Thought I could turn a larger diameter piece (having calculated the
small and large diameters at a fixed length) but can forsee problems
accuratley measuring the 'small' end becouse of the taper.

Don't know if I'm missing the obvious - anyone got any pointers
please? Its only a one-off job so don't really want to have to spend
too much time. I only want a couple & assume I'd have to buy a 100 or
something readmade ones?
Many thanks for any replies
regards
Mike

Posted by Cliff Coggin on August 12, 2008, 4:20 am
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> Hi
> I need to turn a few replacement taper pins, 1 in 20 taper by about
> 3mm (thick end) and 20mm long.
> Easy enough to turn with the compound slide set over.
> The problem is I haven't a clue how to set the angle accurately enough
> - I just cannot set it to two decimal places of accuracy!
> I haven't got a sine bar (and doubt if I would know how to use it
> anyway!)
> Thought I could turn a larger diameter piece (having calculated the
> small and large diameters at a fixed length) but can forsee problems
> accuratley measuring the 'small' end becouse of the taper.
>
> Don't know if I'm missing the obvious - anyone got any pointers
> please? Its only a one-off job so don't really want to have to spend
> too much time. I only want a couple & assume I'd have to buy a 100 or
> something readmade ones?
> Many thanks for any replies
> regards
> Mike

Could you get the accuracy you want by mounting a dial gauge on the tool
post and then adjusting the angle of the compound slide until you get the
desired difference in diameters?

Cliff Coggin.



Posted by Roland Craven on August 12, 2008, 4:37 am
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>> Hi
>> I need to turn a few replacement taper pins, 1 in 20 taper by about
>> 3mm (thick end) and 20mm long.

If you have one good pin then this is nasty but works for me: set the slide
to somewhere close. Turn your stock down at that setting then lay (or clamp)
pin alongside. If correctly set then DTI on saddle should give zero change
along taper length. Adjust until it does.

hth
--
Roland Craven
Nr. Exeter, Devon, UK
roland@petternut.co.uk
www.petternut.co.uk



Posted by Roland Craven on August 12, 2008, 7:35 am
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I spoke tripe.Early dementia! The two outsides of the tapers will be
parallel.

> If you have one good pin then this is nasty but works for me: set the
> slide to somewhere close. Turn your stock down at that setting then lay
> (or clamp) pin alongside. If correctly set then DTI on saddle should give
> zero change along taper length. Adjust until it does.
>
> hth
> --
> Roland Craven
> Nr. Exeter, Devon, UK
> roland@petternut.co.uk
> www.petternut.co.uk
>



Posted by Emimec on August 12, 2008, 4:48 pm
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>I spoke tripe.Early dementia! The two outsides of the tapers will be
>parallel.
>
>> If you have one good pin then this is nasty but works for me: set the
>> slide to somewhere close. Turn your stock down at that setting then lay
>> (or clamp) pin alongside. If correctly set then DTI on saddle should give
>> zero change along taper length. Adjust until it does.
>>
>> hth
>> --
>> Roland Craven
>> Nr. Exeter, Devon, UK
>> roland@petternut.co.uk
>> www.petternut.co.uk
>>
Surely you were right the first time, the DTI would only read zero movement
if the turned taper is exactly the same as the pattern taper when
laid/clamped beside each other, in a reverse taper manner. If the turned
taper was out, the DTI would show an error when the pattern was clamped to
it.
Bob
>
>



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