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Posted by Peter Fairbrother on September 14, 2008, 11:23 pm
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Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> Peter Fairbrother wrote:
>> Andrew Mawson wrote:
>>>> David Littlewood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had some gradually worsening circulation problems in my lower
>>> legs
>>>>> (both) over the last 10 years - turned out a couple of the
>>> arteries
>>>>> there had gradually blocked up. Then 8 weeks ago my right leg just
>>>>> packed up - the superficial femoral artery (the one that takes
>>> blood
>>>>> below the knee) was completely blocked. A heroic attempted double
>>>>> by-pass failed, leaving me with an almost dead foot - there are
>>> worse
>>>>> things in life than losing a leg, and that's one of them!
>>> Eventually I
>>>>> had to lose the right leg above the knee, but my prosthetic leg is
>>> now
>>>>> ready and I'm learning to walk again.
>>>> Crikey! I'd not have guessed from your posts. My commiserations.
>>>
>>> I nearly went down the pub last Friday leaving my false eye in the
>>> bathroom (take it out when showering to give the socket a good wash).
>>> It seemed to be itching, and when I rubbed it it wasn't there!!!! Now
>>> that would have given them something to talk about <G>
>>
>> I'll raise you three broken vertebrae
>
> (with temporary paraplegia - I don't like to remember that0
>
>
> and two gunshot wounds (one .22
>> long, lower leg; one 9mm, hip+pelvis).
>>
>> Pretty measly raise, but as it's table stakes ...
.. and I've lost count of the ?40 broken ribs and the ?7 concussions;
plus the broken arm/wrist which took 20 months in plaster, the broken
shinbone, cheekbone, base-of-brain (twice), the little broken bone in my
foot which still hasn't healed 40 years later ..
.. admittedly almost all these were at least partly self-inflicted, in
that while sometimes other people did the actual injury, if I hadn't put
myself in what I knew was a dangerous situation ..
.. one of the base-of-brain fractures wasn't my fault though, a case of
mistaken identity. And I don't feel in any way responsible for a few of
the broken ribs, or the bone in my foot either.
Or the cut-off nose (now replaced almost invisibly - my Dad did that, by
mistake, with a china rose, when I was about 6 - it was originally stuck
back on with sellotape). Broken it a few times since then though.
Is this typical? Anyone else here have that number of injuries?
A full and exciting life is one thing, but ...
I can't think when I have ever injured anyone else with my
"recklessness" though, other than a small burn to a finger once, and a
few non-physical injuries I won't mention here. Thank goodness.
I nearly did worse once - I threw a knife between my girlfriend's hair
and her ear. I was pretty good with knives then, but really, that wasn't
safe (she didn't mind, but the Hell's Angels bikers who were there did).
I didn't do it again.
I'm trying for quiet times now. Rocketry notwithstanding; I understand
rocketry somewhat, and I know and understand that I don't understand it
completely.
-- Peter Fairbrother
ps, apropos nothing at all: I used to work with phocomelic (no arms or
legs, or only parts of them) Thalidomide kids (they were about 4-6) when
I was 14 and stuck in hospital. They were brilliant!
Also my once-flatmate works with the congenitally-blind-and-deaf, they
are !Trouble!- in the pub. :) (she talks to them by touching their
hands, a bit like sign language by touch - I only know a few of the rude
words though)
but the stories probably belong in a blog or somewhere, and not here.
Probably like this post.
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Posted by Chris Edwards on September 15, 2008, 10:21 am
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:30:22 +0100, Peter Fairbrother
>>>> I had some gradually worsening circulation problems in my lower
>> legs
>>>> (both) over the last 10 years - turned out a couple of the
>> arteries
>>>> there had gradually blocked up. Then 8 weeks ago my right leg just
>>>> packed up - the superficial femoral artery (the one that takes
>> blood
>>>> below the knee) was completely blocked. A heroic attempted double
>>>> by-pass failed, leaving me with an almost dead foot - there are
>> worse
>>>> things in life than losing a leg, and that's one of them!
>> Eventually I
>>>> had to lose the right leg above the knee, but my prosthetic leg is
>> now
>>>> ready and I'm learning to walk again.
>>> Crikey! I'd not have guessed from your posts. My commiserations.
>>
>> I nearly went down the pub last Friday leaving my false eye in the
>> bathroom (take it out when showering to give the socket a good wash).
>> It seemed to be itching, and when I rubbed it it wasn't there!!!! Now
>> that would have given them something to talk about <G>
>
>I'll raise you three broken vertebrae and two gunshot wounds (one .22
>long, lower leg; one 9mm, hip+pelvis).
>
>Pretty measly raise, but as it's table stakes ...
>
>
>
>-- Peter Fairbrother
I'll see your three broken vertebrae and two gunshot wounds, and
I'll raise you a missing index finger (gunshot), two numb feet (chemical
poisoning), a double incisional hernia and half a liver.
Hold 'em or fold 'em kid!
--
Chris Edwards (in deepest Dorset) "....there *must* be an easier way!"
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Posted by David Littlewood on September 15, 2008, 9:32 am
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>
>> David Littlewood wrote:
>>
>> > I had some gradually worsening circulation problems in my lower
>legs
>> > (both) over the last 10 years - turned out a couple of the
>arteries
>> > there had gradually blocked up. Then 8 weeks ago my right leg just
>> > packed up - the superficial femoral artery (the one that takes
>blood
>> > below the knee) was completely blocked. A heroic attempted double
>> > by-pass failed, leaving me with an almost dead foot - there are
>worse
>> > things in life than losing a leg, and that's one of them!
>Eventually I
>> > had to lose the right leg above the knee, but my prosthetic leg is
>now
>> > ready and I'm learning to walk again.
>>
>> Crikey! I'd not have guessed from your posts. My commiserations.
>
>I nearly went down the pub last Friday leaving my false eye in the
>bathroom (take it out when showering to give the socket a good wash).
>It seemed to be itching, and when I rubbed it it wasn't there!!!! Now
>that would have given them something to talk about <G>
>
>AWEM
>
>ps Dave I'll have that hardness tester back soon as the workshop is
>now coming together
>
Andrew,
No problem - well, apart from the fact that (at least in the next few
weeks) I'll have to persuade my wife she really wants to visit that part
of the world!. Just e-mail me details of how to find you and I'll get
down there asap - let me know if it is urgent.
David
--
David Littlewood
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Posted by Andrew Mawson on September 15, 2008, 12:34 pm
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> >
> >> David Littlewood wrote:
> >>
> >> > I had some gradually worsening circulation problems in my lower
> >legs
> >> > (both) over the last 10 years - turned out a couple of the
> >arteries
> >> > there had gradually blocked up. Then 8 weeks ago my right leg
just
> >> > packed up - the superficial femoral artery (the one that takes
> >blood
> >> > below the knee) was completely blocked. A heroic attempted
double
> >> > by-pass failed, leaving me with an almost dead foot - there are
> >worse
> >> > things in life than losing a leg, and that's one of them!
> >Eventually I
> >> > had to lose the right leg above the knee, but my prosthetic leg
is
> >now
> >> > ready and I'm learning to walk again.
> >>
> >> Crikey! I'd not have guessed from your posts. My commiserations.
> >
> >I nearly went down the pub last Friday leaving my false eye in the
> >bathroom (take it out when showering to give the socket a good
wash).
> >It seemed to be itching, and when I rubbed it it wasn't there!!!!
Now
> >that would have given them something to talk about <G>
> >
> >AWEM
> >
> >ps Dave I'll have that hardness tester back soon as the workshop is
> >now coming together
> >
> Andrew,
>
> No problem - well, apart from the fact that (at least in the next
few
> weeks) I'll have to persuade my wife she really wants to visit that
part
> of the world!. Just e-mail me details of how to find you and I'll
get
> down there asap - let me know if it is urgent.
>
> David
> --
> David Littlewood
No hurry - wait 'till you are mobile. But then if Douglas Bader could
climb back into his little MG with a walking stick for the clutch
pedal, maybe it won't be too long in a modern automatic !
I wish you a speedy recovery
AWEM
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Posted by David Littlewood on September 15, 2008, 9:30 am
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>David Littlewood wrote:
>
>> I had some gradually worsening circulation problems in my lower legs
>>(both) over the last 10 years - turned out a couple of the arteries
>>there had gradually blocked up. Then 8 weeks ago my right leg just
>>packed up - the superficial femoral artery (the one that takes blood
>>below the knee) was completely blocked. A heroic attempted double
>>by-pass failed, leaving me with an almost dead foot - there are worse
>>life than losing a leg, and that's one of them! Eventually I had to
>>lose the right leg above the knee, but my prosthetic leg is now ready
>>and I'm learning to walk again.
>
>Crikey! I'd not have guessed from your posts. My commiserations.
>
>> Anyone else in the group with similar problems? Would like to
>>compare notes on how it affects workshop use.
>
>
>I haven't lost a leg, so can't give much in the way of direct
>experience - but I have lost several fingers and parts of fingers, and
>have other damage to my hands, eg neither thumb works properly, so I
>can talk from experience more generally.
>
>
>In a way damage to hands is perhaps worse, as it's a much more visible
>injury, and people stare - though not as much as at people with
>disfigured faces. You get used to that though, after a while you just
>ignore it completely unless someone, usually a child, asks.
>
>I have never minded children asking (or even polite adults asking, it's
>natural to be curious about these things) - it was the reaction of
>adults, telling the child not to stare/be so rude/whatever, which used
>to annoy and sometimes embarrass me. But it doesn't seem to happen
>nowadays - I ignore it, to the extent that I seldom even think of it,
>and to a large extent people don't even notice any more.
>
>Your attitude is more important than theirs - if you ignore it, other
>people will usually ignore it too.
>
>A slight limp however is not very noticeable or unusual, and I don't
>think people will notice at all, or remember, after a short time.
>
>Quite recently my sister asked me to do a job which was obviously for
>the ten-fingered only - she had forgotten I don't have ten fingers
>(despite the injuries to my hands I often get asked to pull splinters
>out, change plugs, and do other fiddly jobs, as I'm better than most at
>them - the partial lack of dexterity and touch sensation is made up for
>by learned good hand-eye coordination, and knowing more about hands
>work than most people do).
>
>
>
>
>There will be some things you can never do again - for instance I can
>never play the Bagpipes again properly, I don't know whether that is a
>curse or a blessing though. I don't think you could be an Olympic
>runner now (except maybe in the paralympics, which you just got the
>initial qualification for - you have only to work on a qualifying time
>now :)
>
>These impossible things however are rare indeed, and almost everything
>will still be possible.
>
>
>More so of course if you are "determined", though I don't know whether
>determination or willpower (or bravery - people said I was brave, which
>was nice but completely untrue, even bewildering) really comes into it.
>
>A little bravery and determination can help with the initial healing,
>but once the pain is gone it's mostly irrelevant - a little ingenuity
>is far more useful.
>
>It's more a question of whether you sink in a cycle of self-pity and
>self-doubt or not - you are left with a choice, either you just try and
>do it, when you will almost always eventually succeed; or you feel
>sorry for yourself. And while you can feel sorry for yourself for a
>time, it gets awfully boring.
>
>If you realise that, willpower and/or determination aren't involved any
>more, you just get on with things. At any rate it was that way for me,
>much easier than giving up ciggies. I don't think you will have a
>problem with this, you don't seem the type.
>
>
>
>I don't think you will have much difficulty in a workshop either. Maybe
>get a stool until the stump heals and hardens, and some levers or
>whatnot for moving heavy things around?
>
Peter,
Thanks very much for the above advice (and the sentiments). No, I don't
intend to wallow, just get on with it. Oddly, the hardest thing was
coming out of hospital 10 days ago. From being a patient (and more
mobile than almost all the others despite being in a wheelchair) and
with nothing available that I wanted to do, to being someone of limited
mobility at home, with a thousand things I wanted to do but couldn't,
took some adjustment. I just decided it was a challenge to expand the
envelope every day.
David
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David Littlewood
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