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Tapping size campingstoveman 01-27-2008
Posted by Tom on January 27, 2008, 2:41 pm
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jontom_1uk@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>>Tim Leech wrote:
>>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>campingstoveman wrote:
>>
>>>>>Gentlemen,
>>
>>>>>Can anyone tell me the tapping size of a 11/16ths UNF tap, I know its a
>>>>>bastard size, I have bought a tap but none of my books give a drill size for
>>>>>it.
>>>>>Its for Landrover track rod ends.
>>
>>>>>Martin P
>>
>>>>MH gives, for 1-1/2D to 3D depth of engagement as between 0.651-0.655"
>>>>so 21/32" drill is pretty close @ 0.65625"
>>
>>>>Tom
>>
>>>What is the pitch? 5/8" is 18 tpi, 3/4 is 16.
>>
>>>I've got an 11/16" UNS tap, 16 tpi, in my hand which is marked 'use
>>>5/8" drill'.
>>
>>>Tip
>>
>>Missed the UNS, not UNF is it? :-)
>>
>>Tom- Hide quoted text -
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>
> Tom
>
> Yes, I think it should be UNS at 16TPI, at least that is what the
> LR4X4 forum thinks it is. I suspect the chart I quoted was actually a
> missprint and called it UNF instead of UNS. It is also a fairly common
> size used on some plumbing fittings so I suppose it could be called
> "special". As UNS it is listed fairly often with the tapping drill at
> 5/8", as of course is 11/16UNEF at 24TPI with a tapping drill of
> 16.6mm.
>
> Regards
>
> Keith
>
Well everyone is in on the act. I made some shackle pins the other day
for the roller I'm playing with and just to be different they had a 5/8"
16 tpi thread, instead of 14 tpi which is the standard for 5/8" BSF.

Tom

Posted by campingstoveman on January 27, 2008, 4:03 pm
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Gentlemen,

Just to put you out of your agony :-)) it is a 11/16 16tpi unf and I do find
mention in my machinery's handbook.

Martin P
> jontom_1uk@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>>Tim Leech wrote:
>>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>campingstoveman wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Gentlemen,
>>>
>>>>>>Can anyone tell me the tapping size of a 11/16ths UNF tap, I know its
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>bastard size, I have bought a tap but none of my books give a drill
>>>>>>size for
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>Its for Landrover track rod ends.
>>>
>>>>>>Martin P
>>>
>>>>>MH gives, for 1-1/2D to 3D depth of engagement as between 0.651-0.655"
>>>>>so 21/32" drill is pretty close @ 0.65625"
>>>
>>>>>Tom
>>>
>>>>What is the pitch? 5/8" is 18 tpi, 3/4 is 16.
>>>
>>>>I've got an 11/16" UNS tap, 16 tpi, in my hand which is marked 'use
>>>>5/8" drill'.
>>>
>>>>Tip
>>>
>>>Missed the UNS, not UNF is it? :-)
>>>
>>>Tom- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Yes, I think it should be UNS at 16TPI, at least that is what the
>> LR4X4 forum thinks it is. I suspect the chart I quoted was actually a
>> missprint and called it UNF instead of UNS. It is also a fairly common
>> size used on some plumbing fittings so I suppose it could be called
>> "special". As UNS it is listed fairly often with the tapping drill at
>> 5/8", as of course is 11/16UNEF at 24TPI with a tapping drill of
>> 16.6mm.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Keith
> >
> Well everyone is in on the act. I made some shackle pins the other day
> for the roller I'm playing with and just to be different they had a 5/8"
> 16 tpi thread, instead of 14 tpi which is the standard for 5/8" BSF.
>
> Tom



Posted by on January 27, 2008, 5:33 am
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wrote:
> Gentlemen,
>
> Can anyone tell me the tapping size of a 11/16ths UNF tap, I know its a
> bastard size, I have bought a tap but none of my books give a drill size for
> it.
> Its for Landrover track rod ends.
>
> Martin P
>
> --
> martin.per...@btopenworld.com
>
> Semper in Excrementem Altitudo Solus Varius
>
> My Photo's
:-http://internalfire.com/modules.php?set_albumName=campingstoveman&op=...
>
> Also you will find some herehttp://picasaweb.google.com/campingstoveman

Martin Hi,

Depends really on what sort of thread engagement you need for the
thread. If it is 11/16 X 16UNF the tapping drill is listed as 5/8"
here: http://www.advancefasteners.com/Inventory_16.php?ProdID=XAB4

That would give a 77% thread engagement using the calculator that
Peter pointed to.

A 15.5mm drill would give 95% thread and ensure a broken tap I feel

The 21/32" that Tom recommends would give a 40% thread and could be a
bit loose for your needs.

I think I might go with the 5/8" listed on the chart but I know
nothing about track rod ends and the required thread engagement. it is
also a bit early so I should check my calculations yourself before
drilling.

Keith

Posted by campingstoveman on January 27, 2008, 6:30 am
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Gentlemen,

Thank you, my brother and I used a 5/8 drill on a test piece and it works
very well, we had calculated 15.5 but couldn't even get the taper tap to
start.
Now we will tap the required part. Thanks all for help.

Martin P
> Gentlemen,
>
> Can anyone tell me the tapping size of a 11/16ths UNF tap, I know its a
> bastard size, I have bought a tap but none of my books give a drill size
> for it.
> Its for Landrover track rod ends.
>
> Martin P
>
> --
> martin.perman@btopenworld.com
>
> Semper in Excrementem Altitudo Solus Varius
>
> My Photo's :-
>
http://internalfire.com/modules.php?set_albumName=campingstoveman&op=modload&name=PubGallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
>
> Also you will find some here http://picasaweb.google.com/campingstoveman
>



Posted by mark@ems-fife.co.uk on January 27, 2008, 6:34 am
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wrote:
> Gentlemen,
>
> Can anyone tell me the tapping size of a 11/16ths UNF tap, I know its a
> bastard size, I have bought a tap but none of my books give a drill size for
> it.
> Its for Landrover track rod ends.
>
> Martin P
>
> --
> martin.per...@btopenworld.com
>
> Semper in Excrementem Altitudo Solus Varius
>
> My Photo's
:-http://internalfire.com/modules.php?set_albumName=campingstoveman&op=...
>
> Also you will find some herehttp://picasaweb.google.com/campingstoveman

It`s 5/8".We manufacture Land Rover track rods,hope your not going
into competition.:-)

http://www.4allfours.co.uk/sumo.htm

Mark.

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