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Posted by ravensworth2674 on January 31, 2008, 4:11 pm
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At no point do I wish to contradict! I assumed that this was 'Ned
Westbury'if only for the association with Arnold Throp who founded
Dore Engineering, where he did the Dore Westbury until 1971 when Model
Engineering Services took over.
Whether Ian Bradley, half of Duplex or Norman Hallows was also
involved is unknown( by me) but GHT went on to alter the design of the
Dore head and the Rear Parting Tool from Duplex castings. Then GHT
took the drawings of the Myford Dividing head from Jack Radford who
had put it on the head of his Super 7 in New Zealand. GHT then altered
the head to take smaller division plates which were interchangeable
with the Versatile Dividing Head,
This is all documented stuff but I would suspect that someone will
contradict both of us.
There is a connection between them all . but not here, please!
Norm
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Posted by Adrian Godwin on January 31, 2008, 6:17 pm
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> I believe the one being talked about is the one designed by Ivan Law
> and made by MES.
>
> This was based on a cylinder, instead of dovetail slides, with the
> back faced of to finish up D shaped and was designed to be built on a
> lathe and no milling machine required.
> The star wheel and trip was optional and used for facing operations in
> the lathe when screwed onto the spindle.
> The spindle thread was the same as a Myford and also the nose of the
> Dore Westbury machine.
>
Thanks for all the comments, folks - I have indeed got the wrong name
(probably because the Dore-Westbury mill mixes the two together for me).
The one I've got is as John describes and is the one pictured (with a
vernier instead of a star wheel) in chapter 22 of GHT's book and
attributed there to Dore.
-adrian
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Posted by Adrian Godwin on January 31, 2008, 7:17 pm
Please log in for more thread options > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:28:35 -0800, ravensworth2674 wrote:
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>> Blackgates Engineering list it as ME8. Sorry, I don't have their new
>> address.
>> That will be the Westbury- not the Dore! N
>
>
> I may be way out of line here, but I've gone through the whole ME index
> (the d/l online one - Chris Heapy?) and can't find any ref. to a boring
> head in conjunction with Edgar Westbury's name.
> There are LOTS, but one I'd look at is by Duplex, who turned out some
> great stuff.
> Mike in BC
This is what I was looking at :
http://www.myhobbystore.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/2704/groupID/5/categoryID/101/v/a6eb368b-5b69-49a9-bf86-fa42c914fa13
http://tinyurl.com/2lt6op
But it turns out I was probably looking at the wrong thing anyway,
so I'm glad I asked !
-adrian
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Posted by Trevor Jones on January 31, 2008, 7:53 pm
Please log in for more thread options Adrian Godwin wrote:
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>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:28:35 -0800, ravensworth2674 wrote:
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>>>Blackgates Engineering list it as ME8. Sorry, I don't have their new
>>>address.
>>>That will be the Westbury- not the Dore! N
>>
>>
>>I may be way out of line here, but I've gone through the whole ME index
>>(the d/l online one - Chris Heapy?) and can't find any ref. to a boring
>>head in conjunction with Edgar Westbury's name.
>>There are LOTS, but one I'd look at is by Duplex, who turned out some
>>great stuff.
>>Mike in BC
>
>
> This is what I was looking at :
>
>
http://www.myhobbystore.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/2704/groupID/5/categoryID/101/v/a6eb368b-5b69-49a9-bf86-fa42c914fa13
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> http://tinyurl.com/2lt6op
>
> But it turns out I was probably looking at the wrong thing anyway,
> so I'm glad I asked !
>
>
> -adrian
It amazes me, that a company could go to the trouble of sorting out a
website like that, and not be bothered to supply a decent picture of
each of the projects that they are selling the plans for.
I truly wonder whether they have their heads planted deeply in their
anterior parts, or if they simply have not got a bloody clue.
I am positive that they would actually sell more sets of plans, to new
folk, esp. those not endowed with a library of back issues of ME on
hand, rather than just to those that already know what they are looking for.
Cheers
Trevor Jones
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Posted by Geoffrey Johnson on January 31, 2008, 8:04 am
Please log in for more thread options ravensworth2674 wrote:
> > Does anyone have a picture of Edgar Westbury's boring / facing head,
please ?
> > Better still, does it appear in any of his lathe books ?
> >
> > I have the head, but am missing the automatic advance striker. I can make
> > a guess at it but it would be interesting to see the original.
> >
> > I would think that this is the set of drawings that Magicalia sell as WE8,
> > but there's no picture on their site, and I'd rather buy one of the Tee
> > books than a single set of project drawings.
> >
> > -adrian
> Adrian,
> You may be barking up the wrong tree!
> I went through GHT Model Engineers Workshop Manual- (Tee) as he had
> modified one.The striker and star wheel are not shown. The clue is a
> tenuous one. And I am going to get some more flak for going round the
> houses.
> 'Dore' is Arnold Throp and he was/is a part of Model Engineer Services
> of Sheffield. Ivan Law and the Quorn/ Dore Westbury/Kennet et al. The
> next clue is that Throp is/was a member of the SMEE. I nattered with
> him on the stand at Harrogate a couple of years ago.
> Hope this helps( and unless someone can do better- they can belt up)
> Norman
Adrian et al,
I have in front of me two sheets of proper foolscap paper, originating
from Model Engineering services. Subject heading is `The Dore Boring and
Facing Head'.
There are 4 pics on the sheets, 3 of which show the doo-dah for tripping
the feed when facing.
If you want me to scan and mail just ask.
I've actually got a Dore head to sell but am less sure whether we've got
the doo-dah to go with it. All resultant on a workshop clearance from a
deceased club member. I'll `up' the search process.
Geoff Johnson
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> and made by MES.
>
> This was based on a cylinder, instead of dovetail slides, with the
> back faced of to finish up D shaped and was designed to be built on a
> lathe and no milling machine required.
> The star wheel and trip was optional and used for facing operations in
> the lathe when screwed onto the spindle.
> The spindle thread was the same as a Myford and also the nose of the
> Dore Westbury machine.
>