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Workshops and Neighbours Peter Neill 04-24-2008
Posted by Bill on April 24, 2008, 5:39 pm
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I do not have a workshop I have a shed. If you tell anyone you have a
workshop you asking for trouble. If you have a workshop to some people you
are in business.

Find the letter from the tax man and burn it. Things have changed in the
last 25 years. If you make a profit you pay tax, and the more profit the
more tax. Been there done that and had to pay accountants.

>
>> Just had a call & visit from the local planning enforcement officer
>> following an 'anonymous' complaint that I was illegally running a
>> business from home.
>> I suspect that my neighbours (the ones with the noisy dog mentioned
>> before) have made the complaint, as we recently informed them that
>> they were in breach of the Party Wall Act with respect to themachine
>> is perfectly ok as she could see from our website that this is just a
>
>> extension they are building, which didn't go down too well.
>>
>> The good news is that the planning officer (very pleasant lady btw)
>> happily confirmed that having a phone, desk, computer, and fax > local
>> sales office, with the factory and toolroom being 25 miles up
>> the road in Clacton, so the complaint has been closed almost as soon
>> as it was opened. Having a lathe & mill in the garage for hobby use is
>> no problem either apparently.
>>
>> I suspect that the next avenue of tit-for-tat complaints from them
>> will be excessive noise (although there isn't) when the machines are
>> being run.
>> Has anyone else had problems with neighbours complaining about their
>> hobby workshop, from noise or other activities?
>>
>> Peter
>>
> Slightly OT. I was once shopped to the tax man by a disgruntled ex-partner
> in my model railway etching business. (He had been fiddling the books so I
> tipped him out). The tax man had a look at my books, and turned out to be
> a model railway enthusiast himself. The bottom line was a letter saying he
> regarded my business as a 'hobby' and provided my actual profit did not
> exceed a particular figure (quite high) he was disregarding it, as he was
> sure I could produce 'expenses' sufficient to wipe out most of the
> positive cash flow which I had. There is always someone out to wreck your
> life if they can. I still have that letter in my files somewhere after 22
> years in the 'hobby' business.
>
> Alistair Wright
>



Posted by Alistair Wright on April 25, 2008, 8:21 am
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>I do not have a workshop I have a shed. If you tell anyone you have a
>workshop you asking for trouble. If you have a workshop to some people you
>are in business.
>
> Find the letter from the tax man and burn it. Things have changed in the
> last 25 years. If you make a profit you pay tax, and the more profit the
> more tax. Been there done that and had to pay accountants.

Absolutely! But my tax man quizzed me about how much I might claim against
my positive cash flow. He pointed out I could charge for a room in my house,
car and subsistence expenses going to exhibitions, drawing materials, books,
and copying costs etc, etc. He totted up his guess for these figures and
compared it with my so called undeclared profit. He then said it wasn't
worth their while claiming tax on what was left.

It was bit like the time I got made redundant when the firm I worked for
went for went belly up in 1972 as so many small Midland outfits did in the
wake of the R-R collapse. 620 skilled engineers and graduates arrived on the
local jobs market all on one day. I was retained by the Receiver to complete
some drawings, working as a contract draughtsman. This was kind of ironic,
as I had been trained by R-R as a designer! I was paid in cash every Friday.
Six weeks of this before I found a new job in my substantive rank of Chief
Engineer. As a draffy I had earned 'gross' about the same amount as if I was
still in my old job. I didn't pay tax during this spell (though I was
stamping my cards) and when I rang the tax office to find out how much I
owed, they asked me my name. My name begins with a 'W'. Oh, he said "W, -
we'll never get to you - forget it!" I suppose it was some compensation for
the month's notice I was owed.

I have always found my local tax man very friendly if you come clean at the
outset.

Alistair W



Posted by John Stevenson on April 24, 2008, 6:44 pm
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Peter,
Any chance of a bit of that No 2 plastic to make machineable wax out
of ?
Got some big candles from Ikea last night for 50p each, far less than
bulk paraffin wax

Harrogate show in just over a week so go to get some blanks made up.
--
Regards,

John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.

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Posted by John Stevenson on April 24, 2008, 7:00 pm
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:44:57 GMT, John Stevenson

>Peter,
>Any chance of a bit of that No 2 plastic to make machineable wax out
>of ?
>Got some big candles from Ikea last night for 50p each, far less than
>bulk paraffin wax
>
>Harrogate show in just over a week so go to get some blanks made up.

Oops sorry should have been email to Peter
--
Regards,

John Stevenson
Nottingham, England.

Visit the new Model Engineering adverts page at:-
http://www.homeworkshop.org.uk/

Posted by Peter Fairbrother on June 27, 2008, 6:21 pm
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John Stevenson wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:44:57 GMT, John Stevenson
>
>> Peter,
>> Any chance of a bit of that No 2 plastic to make machineable wax out
>> of ?
>> Got some big candles from Ikea last night for 50p each, far less than
>> bulk paraffin wax
>>
>> Harrogate show in just over a week so go to get some blanks made up.
>
> Oops sorry should have been email to Peter
> --
> Regards,
>
> John Stevenson

What's the No 2 plastic?


-- Peter Fairbrother


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