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hole in the middle? bugbear 01-07-2008
Posted by Suzy on January 8, 2008, 1:32 pm
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> over the holiday I had cause to make a 1/4" whitworth knob.
> 1" diameter, 1/4" thick, 1/4 whit hole in the middle.
>
> Simple enough job, but I only had some 1" x 1/4" Alu flatstock
> (actually an old shelf bracket!!).
>
> I cut off a slice, centre popped, marked a circle,
> and attempted to drill the tap hole for 1/4"
>
> I was off the mark by 1.5mm
>
> As a "proof of concept" I then hacksawed the square
> piece octagonal (remove corners) and filed to a good
> circle. The hole (of course) was still off centre.
>
> At this point I should point out that I am a woodworker
> with a few files and a hacksaw. I don't have a lathe,
> or even a drill press.
>
> It's all hand work.
>
> What techniques could I use to get an accurately placed
> hole?
>
> BugBear

As Norman B suggested, if you 'center popped' first it will only be
quite a shallow indentation, use a small drill first (like 1/8") as
that will locate in the mark. Then use the 1/4" tapping drill.
Alu is obviously quite soft, so a 'big' drill will tend to grab into
the metal only approximately where u first place it - hence (probably)
your 1.5mm error.
Mike

Plus, I would add, as they are so cheap buy yourself a drill-press. It will
revolutionise (ouch!) all your work. And if you've got away without before
ALWAYS wear safety spectacles especially now that drilling is nearer eye
level.



Posted by bugbear on January 9, 2008, 4:52 am
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Suzy wrote:
>> over the holiday I had cause to make a 1/4" whitworth knob.
>> 1" diameter, 1/4" thick, 1/4 whit hole in the middle.
>>
>> Simple enough job, but I only had some 1" x 1/4" Alu flatstock
>> (actually an old shelf bracket!!).
>>
>> I cut off a slice, centre popped, marked a circle,
>> and attempted to drill the tap hole for 1/4"
>>
>> I was off the mark by 1.5mm
>>
>> As a "proof of concept" I then hacksawed the square
>> piece octagonal (remove corners) and filed to a good
>> circle. The hole (of course) was still off centre.
>>
>> At this point I should point out that I am a woodworker
>> with a few files and a hacksaw. I don't have a lathe,
>> or even a drill press.
>>
>> It's all hand work.
>>
>> What techniques could I use to get an accurately placed
>> hole?
>>
>> BugBear
>
> As Norman B suggested, if you 'center popped' first it will only be
> quite a shallow indentation, use a small drill first (like 1/8") as
> that will locate in the mark. Then use the 1/4" tapping drill.
> Alu is obviously quite soft, so a 'big' drill will tend to grab into
> the metal only approximately where u first place it - hence (probably)
> your 1.5mm error.
> Mike
>
> Plus, I would add, as they are so cheap buy yourself a drill-press. It will
> revolutionise (ouch!) all your work. And if you've got away without before
> ALWAYS wear safety spectacles especially now that drilling is nearer eye
> level.

Actually, I am desperately short of workshop space, the issue
with a drill press is not cost, but space. I also strongly prefer
(just as a personal quirk) not using electric tools.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/bugbear33/workshop.jpg

I may try and buy something like this:

http://homepage.mac.com/galoot_9/gpimages/post_drill.jpg

BugBear

Posted by Trevor Jones on January 9, 2008, 8:21 am
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bugbear wrote:


>
> Actually, I am desperately short of workshop space, the issue
> with a drill press is not cost, but space. I also strongly prefer
> (just as a personal quirk) not using electric tools.
>
> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f234/bugbear33/workshop.jpg
>
> I may try and buy something like this:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/galoot_9/gpimages/post_drill.jpg
>
> BugBear

Take a look at the Cole Drill, as well, then. At least, know what one
looks like, so as to recognise it as the bargain it is, if you see one
at a car boot sale.

They take up little space, and will drill holes that would make many
other drills give up. Portable, too! :-)

Lesse.... http://www.dogpatch.com/bobp/shop/cole_drill.jpg

Cheers
Trevor Jones



Posted by bugbear on January 9, 2008, 9:41 am
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Trevor Jones wrote:
>
> Take a look at the Cole Drill, as well, then. At least, know what one
> looks like, so as to recognise it as the bargain it is, if you see one
> at a car boot sale.
>
> They take up little space, and will drill holes that would make many
> other drills give up. Portable, too! :-)
>
> Lesse.... http://www.dogpatch.com/bobp/shop/cole_drill.jpg

Duly Noted ;-)

BugBear

Posted by Allan Waterfall on January 9, 2008, 12:17 pm
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Just drill the hole first and mark the outer circle afterwards using a
paper template if you're only making a knob.

Allan


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