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newbie question--workshop size? John Doe 09-14-2006
Posted by John Doe on September 14, 2006, 7:51 pm
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 hi all,

i have a garden shed that is 7'x5' and i would like to get rid of this and
build a workshop slightly larger, i reckon my wife would let me get away
with 10'x8'.

question is?, do i need planning permission for what is basically a big
shed, and what sort of equipment will i be able to fit in something of this
size?

i've never done any sort of engineering like this before, i know what i'm
doing with a spanner and a soldering iron but i have this urge to start
making things, if you know what i mean?, i would like eventually to be able
to make my own air rifle and possibly small engines for r/c cars, more for
the sake of it than any other reason.

so i would like to have a lathe and a milling machine, what sort of size
would i be able to get in a shop of this size?

are there any books people would recommend for complete newbie?

hope there aren't too many questions here :-)

TIA

james



Posted by Tony Jeffree on September 15, 2006, 1:57 am
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 wrote:

>question is?, do i need planning permission for what is basically a big
>shed, and what sort of equipment will i be able to fit in something of this
>size?

If you want chapter & verse on this kind of stuff you need to speak to
your local planning dept. But garden sheds usually aren't a planning
issue.

Regards,
Tony

Posted by Andrew Mawson on September 15, 2006, 2:46 am
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> hi all,
>
> i have a garden shed that is 7'x5' and i would like to get rid of
this and
> build a workshop slightly larger, i reckon my wife would let me get
away
> with 10'x8'.
>
> question is?, do i need planning permission for what is basically a
big
> shed, and what sort of equipment will i be able to fit in something
of this
> size?
>
> i've never done any sort of engineering like this before, i know
what i'm
> doing with a spanner and a soldering iron but i have this urge to
start
> making things, if you know what i mean?, i would like eventually to
be able
> to make my own air rifle and possibly small engines for r/c cars,
more for
> the sake of it than any other reason.
>
> so i would like to have a lathe and a milling machine, what sort of
size
> would i be able to get in a shop of this size?
>
> are there any books people would recommend for complete newbie?
>
> hope there aren't too many questions here :-)
>
> TIA
>
> james
>
>

Obviously the only people who can give a definitive answer are your
local planners, but if it is less than 50% of the garden area, less
than 3m tall if flat roof and 4m if pitched roof, and is more than (I
think) 5 metres from the house and no closer than 20m from any
highway, and if within a metre of a boundry is constructed mainly of
non-inflamable materials then planning permission isn't needed unless
you are in a conservation area, an area of outstanding natural beauty,
or within the green belt.

AWEM



Posted by Greg on September 15, 2006, 8:34 am
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> Obviously the only people who can give a definitive answer are your
> local planners, but if it is less than 50% of the garden area, less
> than 3m tall if flat roof and 4m if pitched roof, and is more than (I
> think) 5 metres from the house and no closer than 20m from any
> highway, and if within a metre of a boundry is constructed mainly of
> non-inflamable materials then planning permission isn't needed unless
> you are in a conservation area, an area of outstanding natural beauty,
> or within the green belt.

Unfortunately those requirements, which are a fair summary, mean that the
vast majority of large garden sheds do technically need permission since
most will be flammable, close to a boundary and too near to the house!. If
you do, as you are supposed to, contact the local planning department they
will almost certainly say you need permission, and of course they now know
your intentions so if they have too many enforcement officers might have a
nosey, fortunately most councils have far too few to be able to.

On the other hand, if you go ahead and build your dream shed without telling
anyone, and don't piss off the neighbours of do it in front of the house so
it stands out like a sore thumb from the road, who's going to grass you up?.
3 years after erection it'll usually have permission automatically.

On the other hand, a shed with a weak wooden floor is not a good workshop
for fixed machinery...

Greg



Posted by Tim Leech on September 15, 2006, 8:42 am
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:46:45 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"

>

>
>Obviously the only people who can give a definitive answer are your
>local planners, but if it is less than 50% of the garden area, less
>than 3m tall if flat roof and 4m if pitched roof, and is more than (I
>think) 5 metres from the house and no closer than 20m from any
>highway, and if within a metre of a boundry is constructed mainly of
>non-inflamable materials then planning permission isn't needed unless
>you are in a conservation area, an area of outstanding natural beauty,
>or within the green belt.
>
>AWEM
>

Andrew you forgot one.... within the curtilege of a Listed Building
<g>

Cheers
Tim

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