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Posted by steamer on January 25, 2008, 11:37 am
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--Here's the thing: I've got a small insert-type fireplace; too
small to have a grate. So operating it long-term means I build a fire,
keep it going a few days, then I have to let it die out so's I can scoop out
a few inches of ash without giant hunks of smoldering embers that would
otherwise continue burning in the ash can (unsafe, yes?). So what's needed
is an 'ember sifter': something that could be shoved into the ashes, lifted
up, separating embers from ash. I've never seen one; anyone seen something
like this?
--And yes, I made one last night; it seems to work; i.e. the big
embers are caught and the little ones that burn out quickly fall thru with
the ash. I used 3/16" rods, about 9" long and using a 3/8" spacer I tigged
ten of them to a bit of 1/2" square tube. After that I added a handle and
gave it a go. Will take a photo one of these days, but you get the idea.
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Hacking the Trailing Edge! : exists for a reason...
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Posted by Brent on January 26, 2008, 1:14 am
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> --Here's the thing: I've got a small insert-type fireplace; too
> small to have a grate. So operating it long-term means I build a fire,
> keep it going a few days, then I have to let it die out so's I can scoop out
> a few inches of ash without giant hunks of smoldering embers that would
> otherwise continue burning in the ash can (unsafe, yes?). So what's needed
> is an 'ember sifter': something that could be shoved into the ashes, lifted
> up, separating embers from ash. I've never seen one; anyone seen something
> like this?
> --And yes, I made one last night; it seems to work; i.e. the big
> embers are caught and the little ones that burn out quickly fall thru with
> the ash. I used 3/16" rods, about 9" long and using a 3/8" spacer I tigged
> ten of them to a bit of 1/2" square tube. After that I added a handle and
> gave it a go. Will take a photo one of these days, but you get the idea.
>
> --
> "Steamboat Ed" Haas : The impeachment process
> Hacking the Trailing Edge! : exists for a reason...
> www.nmpproducts.com
> ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---
sounds like a nice idea, i usually manually sift the ashes and use
lumps of charcoal in the next fire
but its not a clean process especially when i run my fire as warm as i
do I made a little grate out of 1/4" steel on the last day of my
original welding class. Its now shrunk enough and been heated hot
enough that its annealed tot he point of bending in my hand.
Nice little project hope to see pictures soon.
Brent
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Posted by Kerry on January 26, 2008, 8:00 am
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>> --Here's the thing: I've got a small insert-type fireplace; too
>> small to have a grate. So operating it long-term means I build a fire,
>> keep it going a few days, then I have to let it die out so's I can scoop
>> out
>> a few inches of ash without giant hunks of smoldering embers that would
>> otherwise continue burning in the ash can (unsafe, yes?). So what's
>> needed
>> is an 'ember sifter': something that could be shoved into the ashes,
>> lifted
>> up, separating embers from ash. I've never seen one; anyone seen
>> something
>> like this?
>> --And yes, I made one last night; it seems to work; i.e. the big
>> embers are caught and the little ones that burn out quickly fall thru
>> with
>> the ash. I used 3/16" rods, about 9" long and using a 3/8" spacer I
>> tigged
>> ten of them to a bit of 1/2" square tube. After that I added a handle and
>> gave it a go. Will take a photo one of these days, but you get the idea.
>>
>> --
>> "Steamboat Ed" Haas : The impeachment process
>> Hacking the Trailing Edge! : exists for a reason...
>> www.nmpproducts.com
>> ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---
>
> sounds like a nice idea, i usually manually sift the ashes and use
> lumps of charcoal in the next fire
> but its not a clean process especially when i run my fire as warm as i
> do I made a little grate out of 1/4" steel on the last day of my
> original welding class. Its now shrunk enough and been heated hot
> enough that its annealed tot he point of bending in my hand.
>
> Nice little project hope to see pictures soon.
>
> Brent
You guys got my mind to thinking. I bet you shovel the ashes into some
metal container to carry them outside for disposal. Why not make a sifting
screen out of expanded metal (it has thediamond shaped openings) that fits
over the ash bucket? Whatever is too big goes back into the firebox.
I also thought of a shovel made out of the same expanded metal to sift the
ashes with. I guess you would have to move them all to one side in the box
and then as you sift you could put the coals on the empty side of the box
then shovel the ashes into the pail.
More ideas to solve the same problem never hurt.
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Posted by steamer on January 26, 2008, 12:47 pm
Please log in for more thread options --Yeah; shoulda mentioned: part of the problem is the can I'm using
to store the ash until it cools. I've managed to salvage two of those big
Xmas-sized popcorn cans. They're free and SWMBO likes the paintjobs on 'em.
The downside: no handle on the lid and no wire to lift the bucket. More
rainy day projects, eh? :-)
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"Steamboat Ed" Haas : The impeachment process
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : exists for a reason...
www.nmpproducts.com
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Posted by Kerry on January 26, 2008, 7:51 pm
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> --Yeah; shoulda mentioned: part of the problem is the can I'm using
> to store the ash until it cools. I've managed to salvage two of those big
> Xmas-sized popcorn cans. They're free and SWMBO likes the paintjobs on
> 'em.
> The downside: no handle on the lid and no wire to lift the bucket. More
> rainy day projects, eh? :-)
>
> --
> "Steamboat Ed" Haas : The impeachment process
> Hacking the Trailing Edge! : exists for a reason...
> www.nmpproducts.com
> ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---
My Goodness...I was thinking you at least had a 3 gallon pail to carry the
hot ashes in until you got outside to the 25 gallon metal trash can. We
gotta get you boys equipped! RBG
The popcorn tins work fine I am sure. I am lucky enough to have the larger
Dutchwest stove by Vermont Castings. It has a grate and a handy ash tray
catcher under it. I use my old pair of welding gloves to carry the hot tray
outside to a metal trash can. Each year a new pair of welding gloves appear
under the Christmas tree.
I bet a bit of coat hanger wire and 2 holes in the popcorn tin could at
least get you a handle.
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> small to have a grate. So operating it long-term means I build a fire,
> keep it going a few days, then I have to let it die out so's I can scoop out
> a few inches of ash without giant hunks of smoldering embers that would
> otherwise continue burning in the ash can (unsafe, yes?). So what's needed
> is an 'ember sifter': something that could be shoved into the ashes, lifted
> up, separating embers from ash. I've never seen one; anyone seen something
> like this?
> --And yes, I made one last night; it seems to work; i.e. the big
> embers are caught and the little ones that burn out quickly fall thru with
> the ash. I used 3/16" rods, about 9" long and using a 3/8" spacer I tigged
> ten of them to a bit of 1/2" square tube. After that I added a handle and
> gave it a go. Will take a photo one of these days, but you get the idea.
>
> --
> "Steamboat Ed" Haas : The impeachment process
> Hacking the Trailing Edge! : exists for a reason...
> www.nmpproducts.com
> ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---