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Aluminum tig weld appearance signaturefactory 05-14-2007
Posted by on May 14, 2007, 8:58 pm
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I've noticed that when I'm tig welding with aluminum I'll get small
patches after welding that look pretty shiny but the rest of the weld
is dull. Is the entire joint supposed to be shiny? For instance
today I did two different welds. Both looked good except for the
dullness. Both were using a Dynasty 300DX with a watercooled torch.
One was:

1/4" fillet with 4043 filler.
Argon: 15 CFH
Tungsten: 3/32" lanthanted (2%)
Gas lens collet with #8 cup
Current 250A
Frequency: 120 HZ
Balance: 65%
Tungsten extended approximately 1/4"

1/8" butt with 4043 filler.
Argon: 12 CFH
Tungsten: 1/16" lanthanted (2%)
Gas lens collet with #8 cup
Current 110A
Frequency: 120 HZ
Balance: 65%
Tungsten extended approximately 1/8"


Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on May 15, 2007, 3:00 am
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signaturefactory@signaturefactory.com wrote:

> I've noticed that when I'm tig welding with aluminum I'll get small
> patches after welding that look pretty shiny but the rest of the weld
> is dull. Is the entire joint supposed to be shiny? For instance
> today I did two different welds. Both looked good except for the
> dullness. Both were using a Dynasty 300DX with a watercooled torch.
> One was:
>
> 1/4" fillet with 4043 filler.
> Argon: 15 CFH
> Tungsten: 3/32" lanthanted (2%)
> Gas lens collet with #8 cup
> Current 250A
> Frequency: 120 HZ
> Balance: 65%
> Tungsten extended approximately 1/4"
>
> 1/8" butt with 4043 filler.
> Argon: 12 CFH
> Tungsten: 1/16" lanthanted (2%)
> Gas lens collet with #8 cup
> Current 110A
> Frequency: 120 HZ
> Balance: 65%
> Tungsten extended approximately 1/8"

Dullnes is usually a shielding problem, but could be something else.
Your settings seem fine.

Are you keeping the torch at a steep angle (around 70 - 80 degrees)?
Are there any drafts in your shop?
Is the metal really clean?

Posted by on May 15, 2007, 12:50 pm
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> Are you keeping the torch at a steep angle (around 70 - 80 degrees)?
I was.
> Are there any drafts in your shop?
There shouldn't have been.
> Is the metal really clean?
Probably not as clean as it could have been. I just wire brushed it
and nothing else.

I'll pay more attention to those three things next time I weld.
Should an aluminum joint always be shiny?



Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on May 15, 2007, 9:50 pm
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signaturefactory@signaturefactory.com wrote:

> > Are you keeping the torch at a steep angle (around 70 - 80 degrees)?
> I was.
> > Are there any drafts in your shop?
> There shouldn't have been.
> > Is the metal really clean?
> Probably not as clean as it could have been. I just wire brushed it
> and nothing else.
>
> I'll pay more attention to those three things next time I weld.
> Should an aluminum joint always be shiny?

Yes unless you are getting etching from the high frequency, or the metal
or filler rod is dirty

Posted by Potblak on May 16, 2007, 10:43 am
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> signaturefactory@signaturefactory.com wrote:
>
>> > Are you keeping the torch at a steep angle (around 70 - 80 degrees)?
>> I was.
>> > Are there any drafts in your shop?
>> There shouldn't have been.
>> > Is the metal really clean?
>> Probably not as clean as it could have been. I just wire brushed it
>> and nothing else.
>>
>> I'll pay more attention to those three things next time I weld.
>> Should an aluminum joint always be shiny?
>
> Yes unless you are getting etching from the high frequency, or the metal
> or filler rod is dirty

I've also seen that dull appearance caused by excessive gas or 'jetting' of
the sheilding gas.



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