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Building a trailer stryped 04-17-2008
Posted by stryped on April 17, 2008, 5:04 pm
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Been thinking of building my own trailer because I need one and enjoy
building.

One question by the way, would it be stupid to put a dovetail and a
fold down gate on a 10 foot trailer? And if I did have a dovetail,
when calculating the axle placement using the 60/40 rule, do you
consider the dovetail in terms of the total length?

Posted by johnnytorch on April 17, 2008, 8:42 pm
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> Been thinking of building my own trailer because I need one and enjoy
> building.
>
> One question by the way, would it be stupid to put a dovetail and a
> fold down gate on a 10 foot trailer? And if I did have a dovetail,
> when calculating the axle placement using the 60/40 rule, do you
> consider the dovetail in terms of the total length?

Most 10' trailers tilt instead of dovetail. It'll eat into your flat bed
surface.

As far as axle placement, you want 10-15% of the total weight of the trailer
on the tongue. If it's too light, it will tow like crap. Use that rule for
load placement, too.

John



Posted by stryped on April 18, 2008, 8:15 am
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>
>
> > Been thinking of building my own trailer because I need one and enjoy
> > building.
>
> > One question by the way, would it be stupid to put a dovetail and a
> > fold down gate on a 10 foot trailer? And if I did have a dovetail,
> > when calculating the axle placement using the 60/40 rule, do you
> > consider the dovetail in terms of the total length?
>
> Most 10' =A0trailers tilt instead of dovetail. =A0It'll eat into your flat=
bed
> surface.
>
> As far as axle placement, you want 10-15% of the total weight of the trail=
er
> on the tongue. =A0If it's too light, it will tow like crap. =A0Use that ru=
le for
> load placement, too.
>
> John

What is a good way to tilt it? Most of the time I will just be hauling
gravel and things, but one in a blue moon I might have to haul my 8N
for repair or something.Not sure how well a tilt bed will work in
that cause.

I would like to make it longer but dont think I have scrounged enough
medal to make it any longer than 10 feet 6 inches.

By the way, what is the best way to determine that tongue weight? I
wont know how heavy it is until it is built. How do I determin tongue
weight on it? Is it possible to have too much tongue weight?

Posted by John L. Weatherly on April 18, 2008, 9:03 am
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stryped wrote:

>>
>>
>> > Been thinking of building my own trailer because I need one and enjoy
>> > building.
>>
>> > One question by the way, would it be stupid to put a dovetail and a
>> > fold down gate on a 10 foot trailer? And if I did have a dovetail,
>> > when calculating the axle placement using the 60/40 rule, do you
>> > consider the dovetail in terms of the total length?
>>
>> Most 10'  trailers tilt instead of dovetail.  It'll eat into your flat
>> bed surface.
>>
>> As far as axle placement, you want 10-15% of the total weight of the
>> trailer on the tongue.  If it's too light, it will tow like crap.  Use
>> that rule for load placement, too.
>>
>> John
>
> What is a good way to tilt it? Most of the time I will just be hauling
> gravel and things, but one in a blue moon I might have to haul my 8N
> for repair or something.Not sure how well a tilt bed will work in
> that cause.
>
> I would like to make it longer but dont think I have scrounged enough
> medal to make it any longer than 10 feet 6 inches.
>
> By the way, what is the best way to determine that tongue weight? I
> wont know how heavy it is until it is built. How do I determin tongue
> weight on it? Is it possible to have too much tongue weight?

I was under the impression that you were building a utility trailer. It
sounds like you need an equipment trailer. I wouldn't suggest building an
equipment trailer as your first trailer. The stresses are much larger in
critical areas. Better to make a design mistake hauling a lawn mower than
a 5000# load.

As far as tongue weight, you can tell by looking at it with experience.
Here's a guide:
http://www.curtmfg.com/index.cfm?event=pageview&contentpieceid=1347

When I built my trailer, I took numerous photos and measurements on existing
trailers & built mine to meet my size needs.

The dexter website is helpful with running gear info.
--
John L. Weatherly

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Posted by stryped on April 18, 2008, 1:41 pm
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On Apr 18, 8:03=A0am, "John L. Weatherly"
> stryped wrote:

>
.
>
> >> > Been thinking of building my own trailer because I need one and enjoy=

> >> > building.
>
> >> > One question by the way, would it be stupid to put a dovetail and a
> >> > fold down gate on a 10 foot trailer? And if I did have a dovetail,
> >> > when calculating the axle placement using the 60/40 rule, do you
> >> > consider the dovetail in terms of the total length?
>
> >> Most 10' =A0trailers tilt instead of dovetail. =A0It'll eat into your f=
lat
> >> bed surface.
>
> >> As far as axle placement, you want 10-15% of the total weight of the
> >> trailer on the tongue. =A0If it's too light, it will tow like crap. =A0=
Use
> >> that rule for load placement, too.
>
> >> John
>
> > What is a good way to tilt it? Most of the time I will just be hauling
> > gravel and things, but one in a blue moon I might have to haul my 8N
> > for repair or something.Not sure how well a tilt bed will work =A0in
> > that cause.
>
> > I would like to make it longer but dont think I have scrounged enough
> > medal to make it any longer than 10 feet 6 inches.
>
> > By the way, what is the best way to determine that tongue weight? I
> > wont know how heavy it is until it is built. How do I determin tongue
> > weight on it? Is it possible to have too much tongue weight?
>
> I was under the impression that you were building a utility trailer. =A0It=

> sounds like you need an equipment trailer. =A0I wouldn't suggest building =
an
> equipment trailer as your first trailer. =A0The stresses are much larger i=
n
> critical areas. =A0Better to make a design mistake hauling a lawn mower th=
an
> a 5000# load.
>
> As far as tongue weight, you can tell by looking at it with experience.
> Here's a guide:http://www.curtmfg.com/index.cfm?event=3Dpageview&contentpi=
eceid=3D1347
>
> When I built my trailer, I took numerous photos and measurements on existi=
ng
> trailers & built mine to meet my size needs.
>
> The dexter website is helpful with running gear info.
> --
> John L. Weatherly
>
> please remove XXXs to reply via email- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I am needing a utility trailer mostly. However it would be nice to
"once a year" or less haul my 1943 Ford 8N tractor if I ever needed
to. (probably never will). It weights 2, 500 lbs.

I have available some metal at work I can buy at scrap price. However,
it is beffy 4x4 1/4 inch square tubing. Is this too heavy to build a 6
fott by 10 foot trailer? Can I weld it with my Lincoln AC welder 225
amps?

I really appreciate your help and sorry for the questions. I just have
so many even after I have looked at hundreds of trailers and read a
few books.

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