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Subject Author Date Continental Motor Parts SteveB 03-16-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts Bob 03-16-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts Don Young 03-16-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts Tim Wescott 03-17-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts SteveB 03-17-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts Maxwell 03-18-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts RoyJ 03-18-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts SteveB 03-19-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts lower rad hose Private 03-19-2008  Re: Continental Motor Parts lower rad hose SteveB 03-20-2008
Posted by SteveB on March 16, 2008, 2:46 am Please log in for more thread options Ah, a new word in my vocabulary, Continental F 163 ............... Are these parts available at suppliers like Caterpillar and other manufacturers that used these engines? I am going to go on the prowl this week and check on the availability of parts locally. Hence .......... Is it necessary to buy "CONTINENTAL" parts for the price they want, or are there generic substitutes? I know the substitutes at cheapo auto stores aren't very good in a lot of cases, but sometimes they just want too much for some things that have a popular brand name on them. I have a rule. I only buy liquids, and a few other unimportant items at the discount auto stores. If I really need a hard item (hard as in being other than a liquid) I go to stores like NAPA, or stores that sell brand names cheaper like good spark plugs at Pep Boys. I am expecting that on a few items, Continental may be the ONLY manufacturing source. The hoses are shot, but look like I could substitute flex hoses without going for the factory Continental hoses. Unless these hoses are available at not much more, then it would be senseless to put the cheaper hoses on there. As I get into this, I'm sure there are going to be Lincoln and Continental ONLY parts, but just how much generic is available without paying high premium spendy rates for the brand name? Hilti and Onan come to mind. Is Continental a name that is recognized at the cheap stores for such things as points, condenser, distributor cap, plugs, etc.? I can see that there's going to be a lot of tuning up and hose changing just to see if this is going to spin and fire. I don't mind spending bucks on good parts, but not when they're many times parts that are just as good and a lot less. I have Googled and found all sorts of parts up to a total engine rebuild kit. Just wondering if I should spend more for brand name, or if generic is good. Or even available. It's going to be a fun week. Steve Posted by Bob on March 16, 2008, 1:59 am Please log in for more thread options wrote: >Ah, a new word in my vocabulary, Continental F 163 ............... > >Are these parts available at suppliers like Caterpillar and other >manufacturers that used these engines? I am going to go on the prowl this >week and check on the availability of parts locally. > >Hence .......... > (Snipped) The drones behind the counter at Schucks, Action, etc. will ask you what year Lincoln it's from. I've purchased most Continental parts from NAPA to keep a forklift running. YMMV Bob Posted by Don Young on March 16, 2008, 11:47 pm Please log in for more thread options > Ah, a new word in my vocabulary, Continental F 163 ............... > > Are these parts available at suppliers like Caterpillar and other > manufacturers that used these engines? I am going to go on the prowl this > week and check on the availability of parts locally. > > Hence .......... > > Is it necessary to buy "CONTINENTAL" parts for the price they want, or are > there generic substitutes? I know the substitutes at cheapo auto stores > aren't very good in a lot of cases, but sometimes they just want too much > for some things that have a popular brand name on them. > > I have a rule. I only buy liquids, and a few other unimportant items at > the discount auto stores. If I really need a hard item (hard as in being > other than a liquid) I go to stores like NAPA, or stores that sell brand > names cheaper like good spark plugs at Pep Boys. I am expecting that on a > few items, Continental may be the ONLY manufacturing source. > > The hoses are shot, but look like I could substitute flex hoses without > going for the factory Continental hoses. Unless these hoses are available > at not much more, then it would be senseless to put the cheaper hoses on > there. > > As I get into this, I'm sure there are going to be Lincoln and Continental > ONLY parts, but just how much generic is available without paying high > premium spendy rates for the brand name? Hilti and Onan come to mind. Is > Continental a name that is recognized at the cheap stores for such things > as points, condenser, distributor cap, plugs, etc.? > > I can see that there's going to be a lot of tuning up and hose changing > just to see if this is going to spin and fire. I don't mind spending > bucks on good parts, but not when they're many times parts that are just > as good and a lot less. > > I have Googled and found all sorts of parts up to a total engine rebuild > kit. Just wondering if I should spend more for brand name, or if generic > is good. Or even available. > > It's going to be a fun week. > > Steve I have not tried to buy any parts directly from Continental and in fact I am not sure whether they still support these old motors with parts. You can generally get Federal Mogul, Hastings, FelPro, and other good name brand parts from NAPA or AutoZone, Advance, etc.. Belts, hoses, radiators, ignition parts, etc., will not be Continental parts and anything of a recognized brand that fits should work fine. There were a lot of different water pumps depending on the application so if you need a new one compare it carefully with the old one. You may encounter a problem at some auto parts stores because their computer systems are only set up for modern automobiles and they do not stock parts for older or industrial applications. It will take a while but you will learn whether your local sources can help you. If you have one, make friends with a local fork-lift repairman as he is fairly likely to either have parts or know good places to get them. Don Young Posted by Tim Wescott on March 17, 2008, 11:46 am Please log in for more thread options SteveB wrote: > Ah, a new word in my vocabulary, Continental F 163 ............... > > Are these parts available at suppliers like Caterpillar and other > manufacturers that used these engines? I am going to go on the prowl this > week and check on the availability of parts locally. > > Hence .......... > > Is it necessary to buy "CONTINENTAL" parts for the price they want, or are > there generic substitutes? I know the substitutes at cheapo auto stores > aren't very good in a lot of cases, but sometimes they just want too much > for some things that have a popular brand name on them. > > I have a rule. I only buy liquids, and a few other unimportant items at the > discount auto stores. If I really need a hard item (hard as in being other > than a liquid) I go to stores like NAPA, or stores that sell brand names > cheaper like good spark plugs at Pep Boys. I am expecting that on a few > items, Continental may be the ONLY manufacturing source. > > The hoses are shot, but look like I could substitute flex hoses without > going for the factory Continental hoses. Unless these hoses are available > at not much more, then it would be senseless to put the cheaper hoses on > there. > > As I get into this, I'm sure there are going to be Lincoln and Continental > ONLY parts, but just how much generic is available without paying high > premium spendy rates for the brand name? Hilti and Onan come to mind. Is > Continental a name that is recognized at the cheap stores for such things as > points, condenser, distributor cap, plugs, etc.? > > I can see that there's going to be a lot of tuning up and hose changing just > to see if this is going to spin and fire. I don't mind spending bucks on > good parts, but not when they're many times parts that are just as good and > a lot less. > > I have Googled and found all sorts of parts up to a total engine rebuild > kit. Just wondering if I should spend more for brand name, or if generic is > good. Or even available. > > It's going to be a fun week. > > Steve > > 'Bob' already said this, but I'm going to reiterate. Napa auto caters to farm and industrial users, so they'll have parts for the motor. Some of the parts you mention will be common to any similar Continental motor, some (like radiator hoses) will be quite specific to your application, and some (like distributors & wires) may have been chosen from a Chinese menu by the equipment manufacturer when they designed in the motor. If you're in luck the part store will have your welder in the books, and will be able to pull parts just for it. If you're _really_ in luck you'll get one of those good counter-men who seem to know everything about everything, and can not only pull the parts you ask for without referencing the computer, but can go on to tell you what other parts you'll need. Whenever I'm doing a big job on a piece of equipment and I'm getting a pile of parts, I always ask the counter guy "OK, look at this pile and tell me what _other_ parts are probably shot that I haven't noticed yet*". About 1 in 4 (or 5) will be able to recommend other parts that I've taken off in my tear down and should just replace on general principals -- I give those guys my return business. * In your case the guy may pull out an exploded view of your whole welder, but it's a risk you'll have to take. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html Posted by SteveB on March 17, 2008, 11:19 pm Please log in for more thread options > SteveB wrote: >> Ah, a new word in my vocabulary, Continental F 163 ............... >> >> Are these parts available at suppliers like Caterpillar and other >> manufacturers that used these engines? I am going to go on the prowl >> this week and check on the availability of parts locally. >> >> Hence .......... >> >> Is it necessary to buy "CONTINENTAL" parts for the price they want, or >> are there generic substitutes? I know the substitutes at cheapo auto >> stores aren't very good in a lot of cases, but sometimes they just want >> too much for some things that have a popular brand name on them. >> >> I have a rule. I only buy liquids, and a few other unimportant items at >> the discount auto stores. If I really need a hard item (hard as in being >> other than a liquid) I go to stores like NAPA, or stores that sell brand >> names cheaper like good spark plugs at Pep Boys. I am expecting that on >> a few items, Continental may be the ONLY manufacturing source. >> >> The hoses are shot, but look like I could substitute flex hoses without >> going for the factory Continental hoses. Unless these hoses are >> available at not much more, then it would be senseless to put the cheaper >> hoses on there. >> >> As I get into this, I'm sure there are going to be Lincoln and >> Continental ONLY parts, but just how much generic is available without >> paying high premium spendy rates for the brand name? Hilti and Onan come >> to mind. Is Continental a name that is recognized at the cheap stores >> for such things as points, condenser, distributor cap, plugs, etc.? >> >> I can see that there's going to be a lot of tuning up and hose changing >> just to see if this is going to spin and fire. I don't mind spending >> bucks on good parts, but not when they're many times parts that are just >> as good and a lot less. >> >> I have Googled and found all sorts of parts up to a total engine rebuild >> kit. Just wondering if I should spend more for brand name, or if generic >> is good. Or even available. >> >> It's going to be a fun week. >> >> Steve > 'Bob' already said this, but I'm going to reiterate. > > Napa auto caters to farm and industrial users, so they'll have parts for > the motor. Some of the parts you mention will be common to any similar > Continental motor, some (like radiator hoses) will be quite specific to > your application, and some (like distributors & wires) may have been > chosen from a Chinese menu by the equipment manufacturer when they > designed in the motor. > > If you're in luck the part store will have your welder in the books, and > will be able to pull parts just for it. If you're _really_ in luck you'll > get one of those good counter-men who seem to know everything about > everything, and can not only pull the parts you ask for without > referencing the computer, but can go on to tell you what other parts > you'll need. > > Whenever I'm doing a big job on a piece of equipment and I'm getting a > pile of parts, I always ask the counter guy "OK, look at this pile and > tell me what _other_ parts are probably shot that I haven't noticed yet*". > About 1 in 4 (or 5) will be able to recommend other parts that I've taken > off in my tear down and should just replace on general principals -- I > give those guys my return business. > > * In your case the guy may pull out an exploded view of your whole welder, > but it's a risk you'll have to take. > > -- > > Tim Wescott > Wescott Design Services > http://www.wescottdesign.com > > Do you need to implement control loops in software? > "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says. > See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html Thanks. I pulled into an industrial parts supplier today in the big city that looked like they would know. There were about four guys behind the counter and about four customers, and the guy said, "Oh, go to American such and such over by the ATV place." All the others chimed in, "Yeah, they got everything for those engines." I have a starting place. But tomorrow, I'll probably just go to my local town (small farming place) NAPA and start there and see what I can do there without driving twenty miles. Parts stores are a funny place. Usually in fifteen seconds both sides of the counter has sized up the other, and go from there. Steve Similar Threads Posted using a DC motor as a generator, for an AC motor-driven DC welder (pix posted) May 21, 2008, 4:34 pm Continental f163 engine manual? June 20, 2008, 5:24 am Mechanical motor questions ..... 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