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Gas regulators and inlet filters David Billington 04-19-2007
Posted by David Billington on April 19, 2007, 3:43 pm
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I have recently changed a set of Butbro (UK brand) multistage OA regs as
I have never been that pleased with them, pressure fluctuations, low
level chattering causing flame variation. I purchased Murex multistage
and they seem much better. My question relates to the presence of inlet
filters in the stem attaching to the bottle. Years ago I read that these
were beneficial and possibly for reasons other than just filtration. I
noted that both Butbro regs had no filters, whereas both Murex have
sintered filters fitted. Examination of some other regs showed cheap no
name regs not having filters and seemingly better regs having them
including a propane reg I have. IIRC some old BOC regs I had had filters
fitted and these were considered a quality brand. I also noted that the
Butbro regs have a machined recess in the stem that looks like it would
take a filter if required, maybe their parts are generic and the filters
are fitted if required.

So from this I was wondering what the groups thought were on the
benefits/presence/absence of filters.

I noted the the Acetylene reg had considerable blackening in the inlet
stem and slight crustiness on the inner surface. Maybe this contributed
to internal contamination. Regarding use the rags are maybe 7-8 years
old and I don't use that much gas, bottle change every 1 to 2 years
depending on usage, the bottle being medium sized.


Posted by Randy Zimmerman on April 20, 2007, 8:00 am
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I think you are referring to built in flame arrestors? Most are a sintered
material or a series of copper screens designed to prevent a flash back to
the regulators or tanks. This is a safety issue.

>I have recently changed a set of Butbro (UK brand) multistage OA regs as I
>have never been that pleased with them, pressure fluctuations, low level
>chattering causing flame variation. I purchased Murex multistage and they
>seem much better. My question relates to the presence of inlet filters in
>the stem attaching to the bottle. Years ago I read that these were
>beneficial and possibly for reasons other than just filtration. I noted
>that both Butbro regs had no filters, whereas both Murex have sintered
>filters fitted. Examination of some other regs showed cheap no name regs
>not having filters and seemingly better regs having them including a
>propane reg I have. IIRC some old BOC regs I had had filters fitted and
>these were considered a quality brand. I also noted that the Butbro regs
>have a machined recess in the stem that looks like it would take a filter
>if required, maybe their parts are generic and the filters are fitted if
>required.
>
> So from this I was wondering what the groups thought were on the
> benefits/presence/absence of filters.
>
> I noted the the Acetylene reg had considerable blackening in the inlet
> stem and slight crustiness on the inner surface. Maybe this contributed to
> internal contamination. Regarding use the rags are maybe 7-8 years old and
> I don't use that much gas, bottle change every 1 to 2 years depending on
> usage, the bottle being medium sized.
>


Posted by David Billington on April 22, 2007, 4:17 pm
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Randy as I said in my OP these sintered filters are fitted in the stem
attaching to the bottle so are present between the bottle and regulator.
A flashbask arrestor is fitted to the outlet of the regulator, at least
in the UK.

Randy Zimmerman wrote:

> I think you are referring to built in flame arrestors? Most are a
> sintered material or a series of copper screens designed to prevent a
> flash back to the regulators or tanks. This is a safety issue.
>
>
>> I have recently changed a set of Butbro (UK brand) multistage OA regs
>> as I have never been that pleased with them, pressure fluctuations,
>> low level chattering causing flame variation. I purchased Murex
>> multistage and they seem much better. My question relates to the
>> presence of inlet filters in the stem attaching to the bottle. Years
>> ago I read that these were beneficial and possibly for reasons other
>> than just filtration. I noted that both Butbro regs had no filters,
>> whereas both Murex have sintered filters fitted. Examination of some
>> other regs showed cheap no name regs not having filters and seemingly
>> better regs having them including a propane reg I have. IIRC some old
>> BOC regs I had had filters fitted and these were considered a quality
>> brand. I also noted that the Butbro regs have a machined recess in
>> the stem that looks like it would take a filter if required, maybe
>> their parts are generic and the filters are fitted if required.
>>
>> So from this I was wondering what the groups thought were on the
>> benefits/presence/absence of filters.
>>
>> I noted the the Acetylene reg had considerable blackening in the
>> inlet stem and slight crustiness on the inner surface. Maybe this
>> contributed to internal contamination. Regarding use the rags are
>> maybe 7-8 years old and I don't use that much gas, bottle change
>> every 1 to 2 years depending on usage, the bottle being medium sized.
>>
>


Posted by Randy Zimmerman on April 22, 2007, 8:24 pm
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Over here they are put at the regulator or the handle end of the torch. I
expect those sintered filters are for the protection of your regs..... If
you do not open up your tank valves and blow them out before connecting then
any dirt or insect nests will end up inside the regulator ..... unless you
have something like a sintered filter.
I would also suspect that those sintered sections act like belts and
suspenders doubling your safety in a flash back.
Randy

> Randy as I said in my OP these sintered filters are fitted in the stem
> attaching to the bottle so are present between the bottle and regulator. A
> flashbask arrestor is fitted to the outlet of the regulator, at least in
> the UK.
>
> Randy Zimmerman wrote:
>
>> I think you are referring to built in flame arrestors? Most are a
>> sintered material or a series of copper screens designed to prevent a
>> flash back to the regulators or tanks. This is a safety issue.
>>
>>
>>> I have recently changed a set of Butbro (UK brand) multistage OA regs as
>>> I have never been that pleased with them, pressure fluctuations, low
>>> level chattering causing flame variation. I purchased Murex multistage
>>> and they seem much better. My question relates to the presence of inlet
>>> filters in the stem attaching to the bottle. Years ago I read that these
>>> were beneficial and possibly for reasons other than just filtration. I
>>> noted that both Butbro regs had no filters, whereas both Murex have
>>> sintered filters fitted. Examination of some other regs showed cheap no
>>> name regs not having filters and seemingly better regs having them
>>> including a propane reg I have. IIRC some old BOC regs I had had filters
>>> fitted and these were considered a quality brand. I also noted that the
>>> Butbro regs have a machined recess in the stem that looks like it would
>>> take a filter if required, maybe their parts are generic and the filters
>>> are fitted if required.
>>>
>>> So from this I was wondering what the groups thought were on the
>>> benefits/presence/absence of filters.
>>>
>>> I noted the the Acetylene reg had considerable blackening in the inlet
>>> stem and slight crustiness on the inner surface. Maybe this contributed
>>> to internal contamination. Regarding use the rags are maybe 7-8 years
>>> old and I don't use that much gas, bottle change every 1 to 2 years
>>> depending on usage, the bottle being medium sized.
>>>
>>
>


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