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Interesting failure mode... steamer 06-13-2007
Posted by steamer on June 13, 2007, 12:20 pm
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        --Had to do some silver soldering the other day so I got out my
nifty little air-acetylene torch. Trouble started when I couldn't get it to
ignite, despite nice shower of sparks from the sparker. Turns out some mud
wasps had built a nice little plug in the end of the torch tip! Got most of
the gunk out but it still doesn't work. Went to Praxxair (where I bought it)
to get parts a new tip but the guy at the counter was clueless. The boss
finally came out, said they don't stock parts any more, the torch was obsolete
but they could order parts. Ho hum. Went back home and switched to propane
torch and lower temp silver solder but this didn't work because all I have
is the higher temp flux; they were also out of the liquid flux at Praxxair
(I looked for the stuff when I was at the store but every type of flux they
stock seems to have been rebranded Praxxair. Sounds to me like they're
trying to develop a one-brand store: not good! Anyway it was an interesting
but frustrating afternoon. I'm wondering if it might be possible to make my
own flux out of lemon juice or some such. Suggestions appreciated.


--
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Mostly somnambulent,
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : occasionally brilliant...
www.nmpproducts.com
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

Posted by Andrew Mawson on June 13, 2007, 12:26 pm
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> --Had to do some silver soldering the other day so I got out my
> nifty little air-acetylene torch. Trouble started when I couldn't
get it to
> ignite, despite nice shower of sparks from the sparker. Turns out
some mud
> wasps had built a nice little plug in the end of the torch tip! Got
most of
> the gunk out but it still doesn't work. Went to Praxxair (where I
bought it)
> to get parts a new tip but the guy at the counter was clueless. The
boss
> finally came out, said they don't stock parts any more, the torch
was obsolete
> but they could order parts. Ho hum. Went back home and switched to
propane
> torch and lower temp silver solder but this didn't work because all
I have
> is the higher temp flux; they were also out of the liquid flux at
Praxxair
> (I looked for the stuff when I was at the store but every type of
flux they
> stock seems to have been rebranded Praxxair. Sounds to me like
they're
> trying to develop a one-brand store: not good! Anyway it was an
interesting
> but frustrating afternoon. I'm wondering if it might be possible to
make my
> own flux out of lemon juice or some such. Suggestions appreciated.
>
>
> --
> "Steamboat Ed" Haas : Mostly somnambulent,
> Hacking the Trailing Edge! : occasionally brilliant...
> www.nmpproducts.com
> ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

Plain borax works for most brazing and silver brazing, though it can
be a b****r to get off if you don't dip it in the pickle while still
quite warm

AWEM



Posted by Grant Erwin on June 13, 2007, 12:37 pm
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steamer wrote:

>         --Had to do some silver soldering the other day so I got out my
> nifty little air-acetylene torch. Trouble started when I couldn't get it to
> ignite, despite nice shower of sparks from the sparker. Turns out some mud
> wasps had built a nice little plug in the end of the torch tip! Got most of
> the gunk out but it still doesn't work. Went to Praxxair (where I bought it)
> to get parts a new tip but the guy at the counter was clueless. The boss
> finally came out, said they don't stock parts any more, the torch was obsolete
> but they could order parts. Ho hum. Went back home and switched to propane
> torch and lower temp silver solder but this didn't work because all I have
> is the higher temp flux; they were also out of the liquid flux at Praxxair
> (I looked for the stuff when I was at the store but every type of flux they
> stock seems to have been rebranded Praxxair. Sounds to me like they're
> trying to develop a one-brand store: not good! Anyway it was an interesting
> but frustrating afternoon. I'm wondering if it might be possible to make my
> own flux out of lemon juice or some such. Suggestions appreciated.

Just order Harris fluxes online.

GWE

Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on June 13, 2007, 11:55 pm
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>         --Had to do some silver soldering the other day so I got out my
> nifty little air-acetylene torch. Trouble started when I couldn't get it to
> ignite, despite nice shower of sparks from the sparker. Turns out some mud
> wasps had built a nice little plug in the end of the torch tip! Got most of
> the gunk out but it still doesn't work. Went to Praxxair (where I bought it)
> to get parts a new tip but the guy at the counter was clueless. The boss
> finally came out, said they don't stock parts any more, the torch was
> obsolete
> but they could order parts. Ho hum. Went back home and switched to propane
> torch and lower temp silver solder but this didn't work because all I have
> is the higher temp flux; they were also out of the liquid flux at Praxxair
> (I looked for the stuff when I was at the store but every type of flux they
> stock seems to have been rebranded Praxxair. Sounds to me like they're
> trying to develop a one-brand store: not good! Anyway it was an interesting
> but frustrating afternoon. I'm wondering if it might be possible to make my
> own flux out of lemon juice or some such. Suggestions appreciated.

Goss sells tips for everybody's torches.

http://www.gossonline.com

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