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Interesting item I found in trailer parts catalog stryped 04-24-2008
Posted by Gunner Asch on April 28, 2008, 2:38 pm
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:12:02 -0400, "John L. Weatherly"

>glyford@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> Why didn't I, or why was I worried about it?
>>
>> Why were you worried. I've heard of a lot of people flipping the head
>> over to get the height (and center of gravity for easier trailering)
>> down. If the trailer is stable and you don't need the height to get
>> under a door or whatever, why worry?
>>
>> I could see, though, if you were worried about the forces on the
>> knuckles of a regular J-head. But even then, I think it's mostly a
>> judgement call thing. Some people support the head with a piece of
>> wood between the head and table. Others say that puts too much
>> pressure on the table jack mechanism.
>>
>> Was out driving one day and saw a flatbed truck with a 1/2 dozen J-
>> heads on it. All had the heads on, upright, unsupported.
>>
>> --Glenn Lyford
>
>Damn. I was feeling like a cavalier badass by flouting convention, too.
>Oh, well, we got home safely. I was suprise that there wasn't the
>slightest bit of settling/relaxing of the rigging.
>
>This is the first time I have moved machine tools with my trailer. Forklift
>to load and forklift to unload. NOT like the good old days of gantry and
>pickup truck. This is getting too easy...


Always put a block of wood under the knee. and lock the knee.

The possiblity exists that the bouncing will blow out the acme nut
holding up the knee, particularly if its an older machine with a well
worn knee acme screw and nut.

I saw this happen one time. Drove the knee screw through the top of
the trailer deck. Very rare, but a chunk of wood is cheap.


Gunner

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Posted by John L. Weatherly on April 29, 2008, 9:07 am
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Gunner Asch wrote:

> The possiblity exists that the bouncing will blow out the acme nut
> holding up the knee, particularly if its an older machine with a well
> worn knee acme screw and nut.
>
> I saw this happen one time. Drove the knee screw through the top of
> the trailer deck. Very rare, but a chunk of wood is cheap.
>

Yikes! I'll do that next time, for sure. Unloading yesterday was
uneventful, but the shaper is much heavier than I had estimated. I guessed
2500#, but after feeling the load on the lift, I would say 4000# easy.
They stacked that little machine tight!
--
John L. Weatherly

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Posted by stryped on April 24, 2008, 10:38 am
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> > Does my idea of drilling and taping the 3/16 tubing for the frame seem
> > like it is doable and will be strong enough to hold?
>
> I'd be worried about it. =A0I'd be more likely to weld a nut on the
> angle and go through both sides of the tube.
>
> > Speaking of back gates, if a person added one later and it was heavy,
> > I assume you would need to move the axle even farther back to the rear?
>
> Yes.
>
> =A0 --Glenn Lyford

I thought of that. You would need to put some type of pipe in the tube
to keep it from colapsing I guess. I dont know how I would drill
through it. All I have available is a hand drill.

If I could figure out a way to get a nut on the inside of the tube,
would that be better than just threading the metal? Maybe I could
drill the required hole in the bottom of the frame tubing, and somehow
fish a nut welded onto a small 3/16 plate into the tube to the hole.
Run the bolt through the angle axle bracket, into the hole of the box
tubing and screw it into thenut/plate inside the tubing.

What do you think? I can see an advantage of using angle in this case
if a person were to do that.

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