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Needing garage door help! stryped 04-29-2008
Posted by stryped on April 29, 2008, 11:03 am
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 I received a single 7x9 clopay garage door from someone replacing
their door. It has all the hardware and even the installation
instructions. I have been for a week trying to =93retrofit=94 it to my
12x16 shed.

I have the track installed and can manually move it up or down but
have tried and tried and cant get the torsion spring to work in
helping with raising and lowering the door. I have done it countless
times all that ends up happening is the wire on the pulleys on both
ends end up =93birdnesting=94 and going everywhere. Yesterday it actually
helped bull it up before it finally birdnested.


What can I do? Would having one pulley slightly higher than the other
cause this problem? I have had to do the best job I could with the
limited room I have.


Another thing I noticed is when I manually raise the door, the bottom
roller seems to be in a different place on the track on one side
verses the other. I measured the tracks on both sides though and they
seem to be the same height.


One last thing when I put it all the way up the end of the door just
barely touched a support on my shed roof. Just enough where the door
wants to come down rather than stay in the upright position. Is there
something I can add or do to keep the door up?


Anyway I appreciate any help as this is driving me nuts and my wife
is
tired of me spending all my time on this!


Posted by glyford@gmail.com on April 29, 2008, 1:05 pm
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> What can I do? Would having one pulley slightly higher than the other
> cause this problem?

Possibly. I've had good luck using the extension style springs, my
understanding is that they're less fussy. If you have the room for
it, you might want to consider switching the door over to that style.
There's a way to calculate/measure the needed spring values, but I
don't have it at hand at the moment.

--Glenn Lyford

Posted by stryped on April 29, 2008, 1:38 pm
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> > What can I do? Would having one pulley slightly higher than the other
> > cause this problem?
>
> Possibly. =A0I've had good luck using the extension style springs, my
> understanding is that they're less fussy. =A0If you have the room for
> it, you might want to consider switching the door over to that style.
> There's a way to calculate/measure the needed spring values, but I
> don't have it at hand at the moment.
>
> =A0 --Glenn Lyford

What do I need for that? Yes, I have the room. That is just where a
spring and a puley are used right?

Posted by glyford@gmail.com on April 29, 2008, 4:54 pm
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>
> > > What can I do? Would having one pulley slightly higher than the other
> > > cause this problem?
>
> > Possibly. I've had good luck using the extension style springs, my
> > understanding is that they're less fussy. If you have the room for
> > it, you might want to consider switching the door over to that style.
> > There's a way to calculate/measure the needed spring values, but I
> > don't have it at hand at the moment.
>
> > --Glenn Lyford
>
> What do I need for that? Yes, I have the room. That is just where a
> spring and a puley are used right?

Two pulleys, actually. One at the top of the upright section of track
so that the cable takes a right turn from vertical to horizontal, and
another that the end of the spring hooks onto. The last end of the
lift cable then attaches back near the first cable (in essence, the
spring has to work twice as hard, but move half as far).

Tension is adjusted so that the spring has no tension when the door is
all the way up, but not so loose that the cable falls off the
pulleys. Select spring ratings so that they just ballance the weight
of the door. This stuff is out on the net, too, for a more detailed
explanation and a few helpful cautions and such.

There is a second cable for safety that runs through the middle of the
spring, straight, which does not affect its operation, but is intended
to catch all the bits and pieces if the spring work hardens and
breaks.

If you go to any of the big box home stores they should have all the
necessary bits and pieces in their replacement parts section...
--Glenn Lyford

Posted by Martin H. Eastburn on April 29, 2008, 9:31 pm
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Might be the old wire is just kinky now it is off.
Once stretched, it doesn't go back.

With luck, a pro installer will be on line.

Martin

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stryped wrote:
> I received a single 7x9 clopay garage door from someone replacing
> their door. It has all the hardware and even the installation
> instructions. I have been for a week trying to “retrofit” it to my
> 12x16 shed.
>
> I have the track installed and can manually move it up or down but
> have tried and tried and cant get the torsion spring to work in
> helping with raising and lowering the door. I have done it countless
> times all that ends up happening is the wire on the pulleys on both
> ends end up “birdnesting” and going everywhere. Yesterday it actually
> helped bull it up before it finally birdnested.
>
>
> What can I do? Would having one pulley slightly higher than the other
> cause this problem? I have had to do the best job I could with the
> limited room I have.
>
>
> Another thing I noticed is when I manually raise the door, the bottom
> roller seems to be in a different place on the track on one side
> verses the other. I measured the tracks on both sides though and they
> seem to be the same height.
>
>
> One last thing when I put it all the way up the end of the door just
> barely touched a support on my shed roof. Just enough where the door
> wants to come down rather than stay in the upright position. Is there
> something I can add or do to keep the door up?
>
>
> Anyway I appreciate any help as this is driving me nuts and my wife
> is
> tired of me spending all my time on this!
>


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