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Posted by DanG on October 26, 2008, 1:30 pm
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First Post Here
I am new to welding but I have a project that I would like to do in the
spring. which is to build myself a motorcycle trailer. I originally started
out with the notion of doing it entirely with my MillerMatic 180 with
autoset. The trailer will be made out of aluminum. I have been researching
construction methods etc... Does anyone here know of a good spot to find
out the correct joining methodology for aluminum? Or any good aluminum
trailer plans?
Also, I have been taking classes and have really been liking the TIG
machine. So much that I got one off the internet. It is one of the Chineese
jobs with 250 Amp AC/DC/Pulse TIG, 250 Amp stick and 55 amp plasma cutter
for around $1200. If anyone is interested, I'll give a blow by blow account
of how it works, bearing in mind that I am pretty new to this. I will have
about 80 hours in class time by this november - I am taking 4 nights a week
- and am slated for the 40 hour Lincoln electric school this January.
DanG
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Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on October 26, 2008, 2:39 pm
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> First Post Here
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> I am new to welding but I have a project that I would like to do in the
> spring. which is to build myself a motorcycle trailer. I originally started
> out with the notion of doing it entirely with my MillerMatic 180 with
> autoset. The trailer will be made out of aluminum. I have been researching
> construction methods etc... Does anyone here know of a good spot to find
> out the correct joining methodology for aluminum? Or any good aluminum
> trailer plans?
>
> Also, I have been taking classes and have really been liking the TIG
> machine. So much that I got one off the internet. It is one of the Chineese
> jobs with 250 Amp AC/DC/Pulse TIG, 250 Amp stick and 55 amp plasma cutter
> for around $1200. If anyone is interested, I'll give a blow by blow account
> of how it works, bearing in mind that I am pretty new to this. I will have
> about 80 hours in class time by this november - I am taking 4 nights a week
> - and am slated for the 40 hour Lincoln electric school this January.
>
> DanG
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Posted by Jon Elson on October 26, 2008, 5:02 pm
Please log in for more thread options DanG wrote:
> First Post Here
>
> I am new to welding but I have a project that I would like to do in the
> spring. which is to build myself a motorcycle trailer. I originally started
> out with the notion of doing it entirely with my MillerMatic 180 with
> autoset. The trailer will be made out of aluminum. I have been researching
> construction methods etc... Does anyone here know of a good spot to find
> out the correct joining methodology for aluminum? Or any good aluminum
> trailer plans?
>
> Also, I have been taking classes and have really been liking the TIG
> machine. So much that I got one off the internet. It is one of the Chineese
> jobs with 250 Amp AC/DC/Pulse TIG, 250 Amp stick and 55 amp plasma cutter
> for around $1200. If anyone is interested, I'll give a blow by blow account
> of how it works, bearing in mind that I am pretty new to this. I will have
> about 80 hours in class time by this november - I am taking 4 nights a week
> - and am slated for the 40 hour Lincoln electric school this January.
More than the welding technology, you need to look
carefully into strength of materials and fatigue
considerations. Lightly loaded steel structures
do not experience fatigue, but all aluminum
structures undergo fatigue. With the vibration
and occasional punishing bumps a trailer gets, you
have to take this into account.
You also need to pay careful attention to welding
technology (mostly the filler metal) so as to
avoid cracking.
TIG is a good technology for welding aluminum, I
don't know MIG, but have heard horror stories of
visually beautiful MIG welds with no strength.
That is supposed to be less likely with TIG. You
can tell whether you got penetration into the
parent metal or not.
Jon
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Posted by DanG on October 26, 2008, 6:33 pm
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> DanG wrote:
>> First Post Here
>>
>> I am new to welding but I have a project that I would like to do in
>> the spring. which is to build myself a motorcycle trailer. I
>> originally started out with the notion of doing it entirely with my
>> MillerMatic 180 with autoset. The trailer will be made out of
>> aluminum. I have been researching construction methods etc... Does
>> anyone here know of a good spot to find out the correct joining
>> methodology for aluminum? Or any good aluminum trailer plans?
>>
>> Also, I have been taking classes and have really been liking the TIG
>> machine. So much that I got one off the internet. It is one of the
>> Chineese jobs with 250 Amp AC/DC/Pulse TIG, 250 Amp stick and 55 amp
>> plasma cutter for around $1200. If anyone is interested, I'll give a
>> blow by blow account of how it works, bearing in mind that I am
>> pretty new to this. I will have about 80 hours in class time by this
>> november - I am taking 4 nights a week - and am slated for the 40
>> hour Lincoln electric school this January.
> More than the welding technology, you need to look
> carefully into strength of materials and fatigue
> considerations. Lightly loaded steel structures
> do not experience fatigue, but all aluminum
> structures undergo fatigue. With the vibration
> and occasional punishing bumps a trailer gets, you
> have to take this into account.
> You also need to pay careful attention to welding
> technology (mostly the filler metal) so as to
> avoid cracking.
>
> TIG is a good technology for welding aluminum, I
> don't know MIG, but have heard horror stories of
> visually beautiful MIG welds with no strength.
> That is supposed to be less likely with TIG. You
> can tell whether you got penetration into the
> parent metal or not.
>
> Jon
Well, I am learning learning learning, I must say that I am having a
great time with this. It took me almost 6 hours before I got my first
good stick weld. It took me another 6 hours to get my Oxy stuff where I
could use it on thin and thick metals. I think that with TIG, that the
learning will go forever until I can get some good welds. I am only
weldig aluminum. Took me 12 hours to get some good welds on thick to thin
materials. Like learning to ride my Harley, sometimes it takes a bit to
catch up with where you were yesterday and get onto where you want to be
tomorrow.
I like the process and the control that I can get with TIG. The only
problem that I have is that I need a ton more of practice. Seems like I
start off crappy at the start of each evening and about an hour towards
the end I get into the goove and it seems as if I can weld anything
together.
Anyhow, for those who are interested, the saga of the Chineese knockoff
will start this tuesday when it is delivered. I will be setting it up and
taking pictures for those who are interested. Moer to follow....
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Posted by DanG on October 29, 2008, 1:23 pm
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>> DanG wrote:
>>> First Post Here
>>>
>>> I am new to welding but I have a project that I would like to do in
>>> the spring. which is to build myself a motorcycle trailer. I
>>> originally started out with the notion of doing it entirely with my
>>> MillerMatic 180 with autoset. The trailer will be made out of
>>> aluminum. I have been researching construction methods etc... Does
>>> anyone here know of a good spot to find out the correct joining
>>> methodology for aluminum? Or any good aluminum trailer plans?
>>>
>>> Also, I have been taking classes and have really been liking the TIG
>>> machine. So much that I got one off the internet. It is one of the
>>> Chineese jobs with 250 Amp AC/DC/Pulse TIG, 250 Amp stick and 55 amp
>>> plasma cutter for around $1200. If anyone is interested, I'll give a
>>> blow by blow account of how it works, bearing in mind that I am
>>> pretty new to this. I will have about 80 hours in class time by this
>>> november - I am taking 4 nights a week - and am slated for the 40
>>> hour Lincoln electric school this January.
>> More than the welding technology, you need to look
>> carefully into strength of materials and fatigue
>> considerations. Lightly loaded steel structures
>> do not experience fatigue, but all aluminum
>> structures undergo fatigue. With the vibration
>> and occasional punishing bumps a trailer gets, you
>> have to take this into account.
>> You also need to pay careful attention to welding
>> technology (mostly the filler metal) so as to
>> avoid cracking.
>>
>> TIG is a good technology for welding aluminum, I
>> don't know MIG, but have heard horror stories of
>> visually beautiful MIG welds with no strength.
>> That is supposed to be less likely with TIG. You
>> can tell whether you got penetration into the
>> parent metal or not.
>>
>> Jon
>
> Well, I am learning learning learning, I must say that I am having a
> great time with this. It took me almost 6 hours before I got my first
> good stick weld. It took me another 6 hours to get my Oxy stuff where
> I could use it on thin and thick metals. I think that with TIG, that
> the learning will go forever until I can get some good welds. I am
> only weldig aluminum. Took me 12 hours to get some good welds on thick
> to thin materials. Like learning to ride my Harley, sometimes it takes
> a bit to catch up with where you were yesterday and get onto where you
> want to be tomorrow.
>
> I like the process and the control that I can get with TIG. The only
> problem that I have is that I need a ton more of practice. Seems like
> I start off crappy at the start of each evening and about an hour
> towards the end I get into the goove and it seems as if I can weld
> anything together.
>
> Anyhow, for those who are interested, the saga of the Chineese
> knockoff will start this tuesday when it is delivered. I will be
> setting it up and taking pictures for those who are interested. Moer
> to follow....
>
The Argon regulator has arrived, but no welder as yet. I will start
posting photos at: http://picasaweb.google.com/ddvg44278/EverlastWelder#
More to follow
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> I am new to welding but I have a project that I would like to do in the
> spring. which is to build myself a motorcycle trailer. I originally started
> out with the notion of doing it entirely with my MillerMatic 180 with
> autoset. The trailer will be made out of aluminum. I have been researching
> construction methods etc... Does anyone here know of a good spot to find
> out the correct joining methodology for aluminum? Or any good aluminum
> trailer plans?
>
> Also, I have been taking classes and have really been liking the TIG
> machine. So much that I got one off the internet. It is one of the Chineese
> jobs with 250 Amp AC/DC/Pulse TIG, 250 Amp stick and 55 amp plasma cutter
> for around $1200. If anyone is interested, I'll give a blow by blow account
> of how it works, bearing in mind that I am pretty new to this. I will have
> about 80 hours in class time by this november - I am taking 4 nights a week
> - and am slated for the 40 hour Lincoln electric school this January.
>
> DanG