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Posted by Michael on March 29, 2007, 7:14 pm
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Hi,
Apologies of this is a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can use a
'normal' welder such as:
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=21719 with a flux cored wire?
(In order words what makes this a no gas welder?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=100333&ts=10022&id=64008 )
Cheers,
Michael
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Posted by Grant Erwin on March 29, 2007, 10:14 pm
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> Hi,
>
> Apologies of this is a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can use a
> 'normal' welder such as:
> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=21719 with a flux cored wire?
That's a stick welder, not a wirefeed.
> (In order words what makes this a no gas welder?
> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=100333&ts=10022&id=64008 )
That's a wirefeed welder which has no capability of delivering shielding
gas.
You are laboring under a serious delusion. Stick welders are different
electrically from wirefeed welders. The former strives for constant current;
the latter for constant voltage. Stick welders don't have things you really
really need for wirefeed welding. Things like a place to put welding wire or
a wire feeding mechanism, stuff like that. Stick welders are meant to be used
with individual electrodes aka welding rods aka stick.
GWE
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Posted by Michael on March 30, 2007, 11:45 am
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> Michael wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Apologies of this is a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can
>> use a 'normal' welder such as:
>> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=21719 with a flux cored
>> wire?
>
> That's a stick welder, not a wirefeed.
>
>> (In order words what makes this a no gas welder?
>> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=100333&ts=10022&id=64008
>> )
>
> That's a wirefeed welder which has no capability of delivering shielding
> gas.
>
> You are laboring under a serious delusion. Stick welders are different
> electrically from wirefeed welders. The former strives for constant
> current;
> the latter for constant voltage. Stick welders don't have things you
> really
> really need for wirefeed welding. Things like a place to put welding wire
> or
> a wire feeding mechanism, stuff like that. Stick welders are meant to be
> used
> with individual electrodes aka welding rods aka stick.
>
> GWE
>
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Cheers Grant - that explains it.
Michael
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Posted by JohnM on March 30, 2007, 6:10 am
Please log in for more thread options Michael wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Apologies of this is a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can use a
> 'normal' welder such as:
> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=21719 with a flux cored wire?
>
> (In order words what makes this a no gas welder?
> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=100333&ts=10022&id=64008 )
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
>
No, not a stupid question.
I'm pretty certain Ernie Leimkuhler has said the Ready Welder spoolgun
will work with a stick welder, pretty slick tool there. I'll hope he'll
fill you in on fluxcore with the Ready Welder.
The thing that makes the wirefeed machine you refer to a no gas welder
is the fact that it's not able to provide a shield gas. Fluxcore is
pretty expensive, compared to a solid wire with a shield gas.
A stick welder is generally the best first investment. If you put out a
little more money and get a machine that'll tig too then you'll be very
well equipped from the start.
Google this group, there's been heaps of good advice about getting into
welding. Buy the best quality you can afford, used commercial equipment
can be a far better value than new hobbyist stuff.
Stick around, you'll get the hang of it, it ain't rocket science.
John
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Posted by Stupendous Man on March 30, 2007, 10:58 am
Please log in for more thread options > I'm pretty certain Ernie Leimkuhler has said the Ready Welder spoolgun
> will work with a stick welder, pretty slick tool there.
It will work, but it's really touchy. It works a lot better powered by a MIG
machine.
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>
> Apologies of this is a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can use a
> 'normal' welder such as:
> http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=21719 with a flux cored wire?