Oxy-acetylene torch on oxy-propane ?

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Oxy-acetylene torch on oxy-propane ? David Billington 03-12-2008
Posted by David Billington on March 12, 2008, 5:51 pm
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A woman I know is looking to buy a new torch for oxy-propane use for
localised heating of glass. She currently has an old oxy-acetylene torch
and is using it with oxy-propane which seems to work OK but the torch
seems to be obsolete and tips not available and she only has a 2 tip,
when tried with my OA torch a 5 or 7 worked much better for the task.
Many torches are available cheaply for OA and some can be gotten with OP
mixers.

My question is what benefit does using a mixer designed for OP use have
against using a OA mixer for OP.

TIA

Dave

Posted by Gunner on March 12, 2008, 9:11 pm
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:51:42 +0000, David Billington

>A woman I know is looking to buy a new torch for oxy-propane use for
>localised heating of glass. She currently has an old oxy-acetylene torch
>and is using it with oxy-propane which seems to work OK but the torch
>seems to be obsolete and tips not available and she only has a 2 tip,
>when tried with my OA torch a 5 or 7 worked much better for the task.
>Many torches are available cheaply for OA and some can be gotten with OP
>mixers.
>
>My question is what benefit does using a mixer designed for OP use have
>against using a OA mixer for OP.
>
>TIA
>
> Dave


Ive got an old Prestolite torch I could stick in an envelope..only one
tip though
Gunner

Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on March 13, 2008, 3:24 am
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> A woman I know is looking to buy a new torch for oxy-propane use for
> localised heating of glass. She currently has an old oxy-acetylene torch
> and is using it with oxy-propane which seems to work OK but the torch
> seems to be obsolete and tips not available and she only has a 2 tip,
> when tried with my OA torch a 5 or 7 worked much better for the task.
> Many torches are available cheaply for OA and some can be gotten with OP
> mixers.
>
> My question is what benefit does using a mixer designed for OP use have
> against using a OA mixer for OP.
>
> TIA
>
> Dave

In Seattle the most common torch used for glass work is a Harris.
They have the highest throughput of gas of any handpiece.

I believe this is the one.

http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/equipment/torchInfo.asp?id=43-2

Run it with 3/8" hoses and a high output regulator.

Posted by David Billington on March 13, 2008, 8:13 am
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Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
>
>
>> A woman I know is looking to buy a new torch for oxy-propane use for
>> localised heating of glass. She currently has an old oxy-acetylene torch
>> and is using it with oxy-propane which seems to work OK but the torch
>> seems to be obsolete and tips not available and she only has a 2 tip,
>> when tried with my OA torch a 5 or 7 worked much better for the task.
>> Many torches are available cheaply for OA and some can be gotten with OP
>> mixers.
>>
>> My question is what benefit does using a mixer designed for OP use have
>> against using a OA mixer for OP.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> In Seattle the most common torch used for glass work is a Harris.
> They have the highest throughput of gas of any handpiece.
>
> I believe this is the one.
>
> http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/equipment/torchInfo.asp?id=43-2
>
> Run it with 3/8" hoses and a high output regulator.
>
Thanks Ernie,

For me many of the pages on the Harris site don't display a lot of the
pictures and the 43-2 is one of them but searching elsewhere has shown
the type of torch. It would appear much larger than is necessary at the
moment. Some other searching on the Harris site has turned up
http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/equipment/mixer.asp?id=f and
http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/equipment/mixer.asp?id=e which gives
an explanation of the mixer types. From those details it would seem that
the standard mixer used in an OA torch is fine on the OP set-up being
used as both gases are provided to the torch from high pressure
regulators so not requiring the F type mixer.

Do you get involved in Pilchuck as this torch use is glassblowing related.

I also noted that the Harris tip numbering system may be different to
that I am used to in the UK. At least with my old BOC torch, I still use
the same tips, I read the tip number is the nominal flow in CFH on OA. I
know from testing at the studio with my torch that a 5 and 7 work well
on OP and I have a selection to 18.

Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on March 13, 2008, 10:55 pm
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> Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
> >
> >
> >> A woman I know is looking to buy a new torch for oxy-propane use for
> >> localised heating of glass. She currently has an old oxy-acetylene torch
> >> and is using it with oxy-propane which seems to work OK but the torch
> >> seems to be obsolete and tips not available and she only has a 2 tip,
> >> when tried with my OA torch a 5 or 7 worked much better for the task.
> >> Many torches are available cheaply for OA and some can be gotten with OP
> >> mixers.
> >>
> >> My question is what benefit does using a mixer designed for OP use have
> >> against using a OA mixer for OP.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >
> > In Seattle the most common torch used for glass work is a Harris.
> > They have the highest throughput of gas of any handpiece.
> >
> > I believe this is the one.
> >
> > http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/equipment/torchInfo.asp?id=43-2
> >
> > Run it with 3/8" hoses and a high output regulator.
> >
> Thanks Ernie,
>
> For me many of the pages on the Harris site don't display a lot of the
> pictures and the 43-2 is one of them but searching elsewhere has shown
> the type of torch. It would appear much larger than is necessary at the
> moment. Some other searching on the Harris site has turned up
> http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/equipment/mixer.asp?id=f and
> http://www.harrisproductsgroup.com/equipment/mixer.asp?id=e which gives
> an explanation of the mixer types. From those details it would seem that
> the standard mixer used in an OA torch is fine on the OP set-up being
> used as both gases are provided to the torch from high pressure
> regulators so not requiring the F type mixer.
>
> Do you get involved in Pilchuck as this torch use is glassblowing related.
>

No but I am good friends with the owner of the only Torch and Regulator
repair shop in Seattle.
He is the one who told me about the Harris hand piece.


> I also noted that the Harris tip numbering system may be different to
> that I am used to in the UK. At least with my old BOC torch, I still use
> the same tips, I read the tip number is the nominal flow in CFH on OA. I
> know from testing at the studio with my torch that a 5 and 7 work well
> on OP and I have a selection to 18.

All manufacturers use different number systems for their tips.

Personally I prefer Victor since they have the best valves in the
business.

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