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Replace Amperage Control harpmeister 07-30-2007
Posted by on July 30, 2007, 11:31 am
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Hello to the welders:

I have recently acquired a small stick welder that operates on 110
volt supply. The existing amperage control is a two way switch that
selects either 50 amps, or 90 amps. I do not wish to use this welder
in 90 amp mode as the duty cycle is ridiculous at this setting. I
also want to be able to control the current in smaller steps and be
able to run the welder as low as 30 amps for some sheet metal
purposes.

Is it reasonable to swap out the coarse, two position output amperage
switch with a type of rheostat or potentiometer that could deliver
lower amperage and smaller increments of adjustment?

I am not a complete knucklehead with electricity, basic circuitry, and
wiring in general. I have not however worked with a welder assembly.
What would the preconditions and precautions that should be observed
when planning such a modification? Has anyone been involved in such a
modification to a welder's circuitry?

Thanks,
Skeeter.


Posted by Gunner Asch on July 30, 2007, 12:00 pm
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:31:57 -0700, harpmeister@sympatico.ca wrote:

>Hello to the welders:
>
>I have recently acquired a small stick welder that operates on 110
>volt supply. The existing amperage control is a two way switch that
>selects either 50 amps, or 90 amps. I do not wish to use this welder
>in 90 amp mode as the duty cycle is ridiculous at this setting. I
>also want to be able to control the current in smaller steps and be
>able to run the welder as low as 30 amps for some sheet metal
>purposes.
>
>Is it reasonable to swap out the coarse, two position output amperage
>switch with a type of rheostat or potentiometer that could deliver
>lower amperage and smaller increments of adjustment?
>
>I am not a complete knucklehead with electricity, basic circuitry, and
>wiring in general. I have not however worked with a welder assembly.
>What would the preconditions and precautions that should be observed
>when planning such a modification? Has anyone been involved in such a
>modification to a welder's circuitry?
>
>Thanks,
>Skeeter.

No. Those switches simply turn on or off taps on the transformer. You
need more than those to vari the amperage.

Gunner


Posted by Andrew Mawson on July 30, 2007, 12:05 pm
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> Hello to the welders:
>
> I have recently acquired a small stick welder that operates on 110
> volt supply. The existing amperage control is a two way switch that
> selects either 50 amps, or 90 amps. I do not wish to use this
welder
> in 90 amp mode as the duty cycle is ridiculous at this setting. I
> also want to be able to control the current in smaller steps and be
> able to run the welder as low as 30 amps for some sheet metal
> purposes.
>
> Is it reasonable to swap out the coarse, two position output
amperage
> switch with a type of rheostat or potentiometer that could deliver
> lower amperage and smaller increments of adjustment?
>
> I am not a complete knucklehead with electricity, basic circuitry,
and
> wiring in general. I have not however worked with a welder
assembly.
> What would the preconditions and precautions that should be observed
> when planning such a modification? Has anyone been involved in such
a
> modification to a welder's circuitry?
>
> Thanks,
> Skeeter.
>

VERY much depends on what sort of welder. If it is a simple
transformer buzz box, the amperage control could either switch between
tappings on the transformer (which actually changes the voltage, and
the current follows) or it could switch in varying amounts of
inductance from a choke. For this type of welder forget rheostats or
potentiometers - the power you are handling is far too much. (Pure
inductors are effectively a wattless resistance in an ac circuit)

If it is an inverter type then it very much depends on what the two
stage control actually does in the circuit.

AWEM



Posted by on July 30, 2007, 1:54 pm
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On Jul 30, 11:31 am, harpmeis...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hello to the welders:

<snip>

Here is an amendment to my previous post.

The stick welder in question is rated for 50 and 70 amps output. My
caveat regarding the higher setting's duty cycle remains. I cannot
draw much of a bead at the 70 amp setting. Perhaps 3 to 4 inches.
The arc stability at this higher setting is not very good either.
Would only be good for tacking.

The welder is house branded "Mastercraft", but after some research it
appears to be manufactured by Campbell Hausfeld. I hope this
additional information may help with figuring whether a different
amperage control may be adapted to this welder. It definitely needs
to get down to 30-40 amps to serve well in light sheet metal work.

Thanks,
Skeeter.



Posted by Andrew Mawson on July 30, 2007, 2:05 pm
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> On Jul 30, 11:31 am, harpmeis...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Hello to the welders:
>
> <snip>
>
> Here is an amendment to my previous post.
>
> The stick welder in question is rated for 50 and 70 amps output. My
> caveat regarding the higher setting's duty cycle remains. I cannot
> draw much of a bead at the 70 amp setting. Perhaps 3 to 4 inches.
> The arc stability at this higher setting is not very good either.
> Would only be good for tacking.
>
> The welder is house branded "Mastercraft", but after some research
it
> appears to be manufactured by Campbell Hausfeld. I hope this
> additional information may help with figuring whether a different
> amperage control may be adapted to this welder. It definitely needs
> to get down to 30-40 amps to serve well in light sheet metal work.
>
> Thanks,
> Skeeter.
>
>

But you haven't answered the basic question: Is it a simple
transformer 'buzz box' or is it an inverter type. Is it heavy or is it
light - the answer to that would go a long way to making a correct
guess <G>

AWEM



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