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Posted by RoyJ on May 8, 2008, 3:44 pm
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According to page 4 of ONE of the SA-200manuals (not sure which one you
have)
http://content.lincolnelectric.com//pdfs/products/navigator/im/IM276.pdf
the 115 volt output is DC, so a wire feed with definitely NOT work. As
in fry the wire feed welder instantly kind of not work.
Worse than that, it indicates that there is no real overload protection
other than the circuit board. Not a good thing.
SteveB wrote:
> I know I already used one coupon this month, so sue me.
>
> I bought an old SA 200 welder with a 1.75 kw rated plug for tools. This is
> stated in the Lincoln download manual. The current available is 15 amps,
> per manual.
>
> I am interested if I can run a 110v. Lincoln 140 MIG on that circuit. The
> required amperage at FULL LOAD is 20 amps. I do not see any breakers on the
> SA 200, so don't know what type of protection they have on there if a larger
> than acceptable load is put on that circuit. Also, there are two plugs on
> the machine. Any way to wire the two together to up the amperage? (maybe
> that's the third dumb question ...........)
>
> Can I just use a tester and check the voltage and amperage on those plugs
> with the machine running? For the electricital whizzes out there, what does
> 1.75 kw convert to in layman's terms?
>
> Could I use this intermittently on a very short duty cycle for wrought iron
> repairs, or even look for a smaller machine that has less current draw? Is
> there such a thing? This would be for small .065" tubing repairs.
>
> If absolutely necessary, I can use the DC part of the welder and 3/32" 6011
> DCSP.
>
> Steve
>
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Posted by Grant Erwin on May 8, 2008, 4:47 pm
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Just use it to run your grinders, which are very happy running on DC.
Grant
RoyJ wrote:
> According to page 4 of ONE of the SA-200manuals (not sure which one you
> have)
> http://content.lincolnelectric.com//pdfs/products/navigator/im/IM276.pdf
> the 115 volt output is DC, so a wire feed with definitely NOT work. As
> in fry the wire feed welder instantly kind of not work.
>
> Worse than that, it indicates that there is no real overload protection
> other than the circuit board. Not a good thing.
>
> SteveB wrote:
>
>> I know I already used one coupon this month, so sue me.
>>
>> I bought an old SA 200 welder with a 1.75 kw rated plug for tools.
>> This is stated in the Lincoln download manual. The current available
>> is 15 amps, per manual.
>>
>> I am interested if I can run a 110v. Lincoln 140 MIG on that circuit.
>> The required amperage at FULL LOAD is 20 amps. I do not see any
>> breakers on the SA 200, so don't know what type of protection they
>> have on there if a larger than acceptable load is put on that
>> circuit. Also, there are two plugs on the machine. Any way to wire
>> the two together to up the amperage? (maybe that's the third dumb
>> question ...........)
>>
>> Can I just use a tester and check the voltage and amperage on those
>> plugs with the machine running? For the electricital whizzes out
>> there, what does 1.75 kw convert to in layman's terms?
>>
>> Could I use this intermittently on a very short duty cycle for wrought
>> iron repairs, or even look for a smaller machine that has less current
>> draw? Is there such a thing? This would be for small .065" tubing
>> repairs.
>>
>> If absolutely necessary, I can use the DC part of the welder and 3/32"
>> 6011 DCSP.
>>
>> Steve
>>
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Posted by SteveB on May 8, 2008, 10:59 pm
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> Just use it to run your grinders, which are very happy running on DC.
>
> Grant
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> According to page 4 of ONE of the SA-200manuals (not sure which one you
>> have)
>> http://content.lincolnelectric.com//pdfs/products/navigator/im/IM276.pdf
>> the 115 volt output is DC, so a wire feed with definitely NOT work. As in
>> fry the wire feed welder instantly kind of not work.
>>
>> Worse than that, it indicates that there is no real overload protection
>> other than the circuit board. Not a good thing.
>>
Talked to the local artisan today. A lot of his work is approaching 5
years of age, and occasionally needs a tweak, a lock adjust, a hinge
adjustment. He doesn't want to take two guys off making gates and CUSTOM
work to go do this.
I, on the other hand, want to go do this light work. Only thing I have to
do is get a Lincoln 140 MIG so I can merely plug into the homeowner's 110
power supply. Looks like I may have a good referral source, and as this is
normal wear and tear and kids swinging on the gates kinds of fixups, it
comes under hourly. We're going to talk again in a couple of days.
Steve
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Posted by Grant Erwin on May 8, 2008, 10:32 pm
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>>Just use it to run your grinders, which are very happy running on DC.
>>
>>Grant
>>
>>RoyJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>According to page 4 of ONE of the SA-200manuals (not sure which one you
>>>have)
>>>http://content.lincolnelectric.com//pdfs/products/navigator/im/IM276.pdf
>>>the 115 volt output is DC, so a wire feed with definitely NOT work. As in
>>>fry the wire feed welder instantly kind of not work.
>>>
>>>Worse than that, it indicates that there is no real overload protection
>>>other than the circuit board. Not a good thing.
>>>
>
>
> Talked to the local artisan today. A lot of his work is approaching 5
> years of age, and occasionally needs a tweak, a lock adjust, a hinge
> adjustment. He doesn't want to take two guys off making gates and CUSTOM
> work to go do this.
>
> I, on the other hand, want to go do this light work. Only thing I have to
> do is get a Lincoln 140 MIG so I can merely plug into the homeowner's 110
> power supply. Looks like I may have a good referral source, and as this is
> normal wear and tear and kids swinging on the gates kinds of fixups, it
> comes under hourly. We're going to talk again in a couple of days.
>
> Steve
>
>
And your question is .. ??
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Posted by SteveB on May 9, 2008, 1:11 am
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> SteveB wrote:
>
>>
>>>Just use it to run your grinders, which are very happy running on DC.
>>>
>>>Grant
>>>
>>>RoyJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>According to page 4 of ONE of the SA-200manuals (not sure which one you
>>>>have)
>>>>http://content.lincolnelectric.com//pdfs/products/navigator/im/IM276.pdf
>>>>the 115 volt output is DC, so a wire feed with definitely NOT work. As
>>>>in fry the wire feed welder instantly kind of not work.
>>>>
>>>>Worse than that, it indicates that there is no real overload protection
>>>>other than the circuit board. Not a good thing.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Talked to the local artisan today. A lot of his work is approaching 5
>> years of age, and occasionally needs a tweak, a lock adjust, a hinge
>> adjustment. He doesn't want to take two guys off making gates and CUSTOM
>> work to go do this.
>>
>> I, on the other hand, want to go do this light work. Only thing I have
>> to do is get a Lincoln 140 MIG so I can merely plug into the homeowner's
>> 110 power supply. Looks like I may have a good referral source, and as
>> this is normal wear and tear and kids swinging on the gates kinds of
>> fixups, it comes under hourly. We're going to talk again in a couple of
>> days.
>>
>> Steve
>
> And your question is .. ??
Who put sand in your Granola?
Steve
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> I bought an old SA 200 welder with a 1.75 kw rated plug for tools. This is
> stated in the Lincoln download manual. The current available is 15 amps,
> per manual.
>
> I am interested if I can run a 110v. Lincoln 140 MIG on that circuit. The
> required amperage at FULL LOAD is 20 amps. I do not see any breakers on the
> SA 200, so don't know what type of protection they have on there if a larger
> than acceptable load is put on that circuit. Also, there are two plugs on
> the machine. Any way to wire the two together to up the amperage? (maybe
> that's the third dumb question ...........)
>
> Can I just use a tester and check the voltage and amperage on those plugs
> with the machine running? For the electricital whizzes out there, what does
> 1.75 kw convert to in layman's terms?
>
> Could I use this intermittently on a very short duty cycle for wrought iron
> repairs, or even look for a smaller machine that has less current draw? Is
> there such a thing? This would be for small .065" tubing repairs.
>
> If absolutely necessary, I can use the DC part of the welder and 3/32" 6011
> DCSP.
>
> Steve
>