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Posted by Bob La Londe on February 29, 2008, 10:28 pm
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... of the gas bottle when I get my new welder.
I stopped by one of the local welding supply shops today to price compare
with on-line pricing. I looked at a Miller 212 with a spool gun. His price
was a little higher than the on-line pricing, but close. Add on sales tax
and its more expensive to buy locally by a couple hundred dollars. Still I
might have, but I asked the guy behind the counter about maybe including
some consumables like a roll of wire, and he said, "Sometimes its just not
worth selling a welder."
Ohh-kay. Selling a welder package you don't even have in stock doesn't
sound all that hard to me. Take the customer's money and place the order.
Make a phone call when it comes in. Dang. And its a sale where the
customer is going to buy a welder anyway, just maybe not from you.
Still, I was polite and let him know I would think about it. I figured I'd
take another look on-line to make sure I had it right. Almost all of those
selling the 212 packaged with a 3035 are including a large spool of mig wire
with it.
I don't know if the local guy didn't know if that was included with the
package, if the on-line guys are all throwing it in to sweeten the deal, or
if that's one of those little things the local guy charges extra for to try
and make back a couple bucks on competing with on-line sales companies.
I guess I'll jsut buy my argon bottle locally so I can get it full, and shop
for the best price on a new welder.
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Posted by Maxwell on March 1, 2008, 9:12 am
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> ... of the gas bottle when I get my new welder.
>
> I stopped by one of the local welding supply shops today to price compare
> with on-line pricing. I looked at a Miller 212 with a spool gun. His
> price
> was a little higher than the on-line pricing, but close. Add on sales tax
> and its more expensive to buy locally by a couple hundred dollars. Still
> I
> might have, but I asked the guy behind the counter about maybe including
> some consumables like a roll of wire, and he said, "Sometimes its just not
> worth selling a welder."
>
> Ohh-kay. Selling a welder package you don't even have in stock doesn't
> sound all that hard to me. Take the customer's money and place the order.
> Make a phone call when it comes in. Dang. And its a sale where the
> customer is going to buy a welder anyway, just maybe not from you.
>
> Still, I was polite and let him know I would think about it. I figured
> I'd
> take another look on-line to make sure I had it right. Almost all of
> those
> selling the 212 packaged with a 3035 are including a large spool of mig
> wire
> with it.
>
> I don't know if the local guy didn't know if that was included with the
> package, if the on-line guys are all throwing it in to sweeten the deal,
> or
> if that's one of those little things the local guy charges extra for to
> try
> and make back a couple bucks on competing with on-line sales companies.
>
> I guess I'll jsut buy my argon bottle locally so I can get it full, and
> shop
> for the best price on a new welder.
>
>
Just make certain the on-line deal includes all shipping and handling. The
on-line folks seem to be worse about adding hidden charges at the last
minute. Also, it's sometimes helpful to loose a few bucks to shop local, if
it means establishing and keeping a good relationship with a local supplier.
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Posted by SteveB on March 1, 2008, 2:05 pm
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>> ... of the gas bottle when I get my new welder.
>>
>> I stopped by one of the local welding supply shops today to price compare
>> with on-line pricing. I looked at a Miller 212 with a spool gun. His
>> price
>> was a little higher than the on-line pricing, but close. Add on sales
>> tax
>> and its more expensive to buy locally by a couple hundred dollars. Still
>> I
>> might have, but I asked the guy behind the counter about maybe including
>> some consumables like a roll of wire, and he said, "Sometimes its just
>> not
>> worth selling a welder."
>>
>> Ohh-kay. Selling a welder package you don't even have in stock doesn't
>> sound all that hard to me. Take the customer's money and place the
>> order.
>> Make a phone call when it comes in. Dang. And its a sale where the
>> customer is going to buy a welder anyway, just maybe not from you.
>>
>> Still, I was polite and let him know I would think about it. I figured
>> I'd
>> take another look on-line to make sure I had it right. Almost all of
>> those
>> selling the 212 packaged with a 3035 are including a large spool of mig
>> wire
>> with it.
>>
>> I don't know if the local guy didn't know if that was included with the
>> package, if the on-line guys are all throwing it in to sweeten the deal,
>> or
>> if that's one of those little things the local guy charges extra for to
>> try
>> and make back a couple bucks on competing with on-line sales companies.
>>
>> I guess I'll jsut buy my argon bottle locally so I can get it full, and
>> shop
>> for the best price on a new welder.
>>
>>
>
> Just make certain the on-line deal includes all shipping and handling. The
> on-line folks seem to be worse about adding hidden charges at the last
> minute. Also, it's sometimes helpful to loose a few bucks to shop local,
> if it means establishing and keeping a good relationship with a local
> supplier.
There's a HUGE difference in attitude from the counter guy when you go in
and say, "I need some help with a machine I bought HERE". And not "Can you
help me with something I bought on the Internet?"
HUGE. And worth the few extra bucks.
Steve
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Posted by Bob La Londe on March 1, 2008, 7:48 pm
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There's a HUGE difference in attitude from the counter guy when you go in
> and say, "I need some help with a machine I bought HERE".
So you think if I spend a couple grand with him he will change his mind and
decide it is worth selling it to me after he already told me its not?
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Posted by SteveB on March 1, 2008, 9:40 pm
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> There's a HUGE difference in attitude from the counter guy when you go in
>> and say, "I need some help with a machine I bought HERE".
>
> So you think if I spend a couple grand with him he will change his mind
> and decide it is worth selling it to me after he already told me its not?
If I had the ability to read people's minds like that, I wouldn't be here.
I'd be laying out in la playa in Mazatlan with a couple of nice senoritas
sipping Pacificos. I'd be worth billions.
I can not recall having problems with counter people at a welding supply
store. I knew what I wanted, I went in, and I got it. Unless I didn't like
their prices or something else about them, and then I simply went to another
store. And that included instances where I knew more than the man behind
the counter, and I could see that in order to argue with them I'd have to
lower myself. I chose not to.
Your experiences probably vary.
Steve, welding since 1974
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>
> I stopped by one of the local welding supply shops today to price compare
> with on-line pricing. I looked at a Miller 212 with a spool gun. His
> price
> was a little higher than the on-line pricing, but close. Add on sales tax
> and its more expensive to buy locally by a couple hundred dollars. Still
> I
> might have, but I asked the guy behind the counter about maybe including
> some consumables like a roll of wire, and he said, "Sometimes its just not
> worth selling a welder."
>
> Ohh-kay. Selling a welder package you don't even have in stock doesn't
> sound all that hard to me. Take the customer's money and place the order.
> Make a phone call when it comes in. Dang. And its a sale where the
> customer is going to buy a welder anyway, just maybe not from you.
>
> Still, I was polite and let him know I would think about it. I figured
> I'd
> take another look on-line to make sure I had it right. Almost all of
> those
> selling the 212 packaged with a 3035 are including a large spool of mig
> wire
> with it.
>
> I don't know if the local guy didn't know if that was included with the
> package, if the on-line guys are all throwing it in to sweeten the deal,
> or
> if that's one of those little things the local guy charges extra for to
> try
> and make back a couple bucks on competing with on-line sales companies.
>
> I guess I'll jsut buy my argon bottle locally so I can get it full, and
> shop
> for the best price on a new welder.
>
>