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Posted by Dan on July 2, 2007, 10:16 pm
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Can someone explain why diameter makes a difference when TIG welding
thinner material? For example, why could I not sharpen up a 1/8"
diameter rod to a needle point and stainless weld a couple of razor
blades together just as easily as if I were using the smallest
diameter tungsten? Isn't 3 to 5 amps the same at the pinpoint?
Is this a HAZ size issue, even though the amperage is the same for
both diameter rods? I can certainly see why a smaller rod could not
handle higher amps, but why couldn't the larger one handle the lower
current?
Just curious. While I love my TIG welder, I have yet to grasp some of
the physics involved, and wish I could better understand what is going
on here.
Thanks,
Dan
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Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on July 3, 2007, 1:14 am
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> Can someone explain why diameter makes a difference when TIG welding
> thinner material? For example, why could I not sharpen up a 1/8"
> diameter rod to a needle point and stainless weld a couple of razor
> blades together just as easily as if I were using the smallest
> diameter tungsten? Isn't 3 to 5 amps the same at the pinpoint?
>
> Is this a HAZ size issue, even though the amperage is the same for
> both diameter rods? I can certainly see why a smaller rod could not
> handle higher amps, but why couldn't the larger one handle the lower
> current?
>
> Just curious. While I love my TIG welder, I have yet to grasp some of
> the physics involved, and wish I could better understand what is going
> on here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
I believe it has more to do with the electromagnetic field that contains
the arc.
A larger tungsten has a larger field and makes it harder to concentrate
the heat of the arc at the very tip.
So a larger tungsten will tend to make a larger puddle and a smaller
tungsten a smaller puddle.
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Posted by Martin H. Eastburn on July 3, 2007, 11:28 pm
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Electric field is in circles around the rod/wire. A larger rod
takes more voltage to deliver the same current density. When current
isn't flowing - the arc is larger and more out of control. Once
flowing the field takes over and does its thing.
A larger field is effected by all things around it - projections
that can rob the power within or other surfaces that bend the rings.
So higher current or higher voltage has a higher field. And it
interacts with more stuff. Say a bracket over or next to -
You are doing a joint next to or inside a ....
IIRC at this time of night and age...
Martin
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Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
>
>> Can someone explain why diameter makes a difference when TIG welding
>> thinner material? For example, why could I not sharpen up a 1/8"
>> diameter rod to a needle point and stainless weld a couple of razor
>> blades together just as easily as if I were using the smallest
>> diameter tungsten? Isn't 3 to 5 amps the same at the pinpoint?
>>
>> Is this a HAZ size issue, even though the amperage is the same for
>> both diameter rods? I can certainly see why a smaller rod could not
>> handle higher amps, but why couldn't the larger one handle the lower
>> current?
>>
>> Just curious. While I love my TIG welder, I have yet to grasp some of
>> the physics involved, and wish I could better understand what is going
>> on here.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>
> I believe it has more to do with the electromagnetic field that contains
> the arc.
> A larger tungsten has a larger field and makes it harder to concentrate
> the heat of the arc at the very tip.
> So a larger tungsten will tend to make a larger puddle and a smaller
> tungsten a smaller puddle.
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> thinner material? For example, why could I not sharpen up a 1/8"
> diameter rod to a needle point and stainless weld a couple of razor
> blades together just as easily as if I were using the smallest
> diameter tungsten? Isn't 3 to 5 amps the same at the pinpoint?
>
> Is this a HAZ size issue, even though the amperage is the same for
> both diameter rods? I can certainly see why a smaller rod could not
> handle higher amps, but why couldn't the larger one handle the lower
> current?
>
> Just curious. While I love my TIG welder, I have yet to grasp some of
> the physics involved, and wish I could better understand what is going
> on here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan