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Welding 6061 aluminum Dixon 03-03-2008
Posted by Maxwell on March 5, 2008, 1:24 am
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>
>>
>>> Although I do know the correct way to weld 6061 alum. to get max
>>> strength,
>>> does anyone know the best "cheat" method of welding it to retain the
>>> most
>>> strength? 6061-T6 is approx 45K tensile. After welding, the area around
>>> the
>>> weld is approx 15K tensile or 1/3 of it's original strength. Would one
>>> weld,
>>> then cool slowly or quench in water quickly? Possibly short quick beads
>>> to
>>> minimize heat affected zone? I have a lot of 6061 T6 on hand, and I'm
>>> looking to get the least softening at the weld area as possible. The
>>> very
>>> best procedure I know is to buy 6061 T0, weld, then heat treat to T6.
>>> So,
>>> what's a good "second best method"?
>>> Dixon
>>
>> Just wait.
>> Yes the heat affected zone will drop in hardness from T6 to around T2
>> after the weld, but if you just wait a few weeks it will eventually
>> regain most of it's hardness through precipitation hardening.
>> The most it can achieve by natural age hardening is a T5.
>> The only way to regain T6 is through re-heat-treating the aluminum.
>
> Ernie, I used to work in an aircraft materials testing lab and have pulled
> thousands of tensile specimens. The idea of the alum gaining most of it's
> strength back at room temp has raised my eyebrows. If I still had use of
> the tensile machine, I would love to machine some test bars from welded
> alum. and test them over a period of weeks to see the results for myself.
> Because of your high credibility on this site, I'll consider your reply
> highly possible, but I'd really like to put this one to the test.
> Dixon
>

I'm not sure which cold finished aluminum alloys self age, but we work with
a cast aluminum (713) that naturally ages at room temperature in 21 days.
When aged it offers very comparable properties to heat treated alloys like
355 and 356.

You can read a little about it here: www.abbottworkholding.com/tenzaloy.html




Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on March 5, 2008, 3:07 am
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> >
> >> Although I do know the correct way to weld 6061 alum. to get max
> >> strength,
> >> does anyone know the best "cheat" method of welding it to retain the most
> >> strength? 6061-T6 is approx 45K tensile. After welding, the area around
> >> the
> >> weld is approx 15K tensile or 1/3 of it's original strength. Would one
> >> weld,
> >> then cool slowly or quench in water quickly? Possibly short quick beads
> >> to
> >> minimize heat affected zone? I have a lot of 6061 T6 on hand, and I'm
> >> looking to get the least softening at the weld area as possible. The very
> >> best procedure I know is to buy 6061 T0, weld, then heat treat to T6. So,
> >> what's a good "second best method"?
> >> Dixon
> >
> > Just wait.
> > Yes the heat affected zone will drop in hardness from T6 to around T2
> > after the weld, but if you just wait a few weeks it will eventually
> > regain most of it's hardness through precipitation hardening.
> > The most it can achieve by natural age hardening is a T5.
> > The only way to regain T6 is through re-heat-treating the aluminum.
>
> Ernie, I used to work in an aircraft materials testing lab and have pulled
> thousands of tensile specimens. The idea of the alum gaining most of it's
> strength back at room temp has raised my eyebrows. If I still had use of the
> tensile machine, I would love to machine some test bars from welded alum.
> and test them over a period of weeks to see the results for myself. Because
> of your high credibility on this site, I'll consider your reply highly
> possible, but I'd really like to put this one to the test.
> Dixon

OK after a little googling it gets much more complicated.

Here is a very detailed list of aluminum temper designations.

http://www.engineersedge.com/aluminum_tempers.htm

Posted by RogerW on March 4, 2008, 12:07 pm
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wrote:
>
> Just wait.
> Yes the heat affected zone will drop in hardness from =A0T6 to around T2
> after the weld, but if you just wait a few weeks it will eventually
> regain most of it's hardness through precipitation hardening.
> The most it can achieve by natural age hardening is a T5.
> The only way to regain T6 is through re-heat-treating the aluminum.

What's the best filler to get preciptation hardening in 6061? ER4043?


Posted by Ernie Leimkuhler on March 5, 2008, 2:58 am
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> wrote:
> >
> > Just wait.
> > Yes the heat affected zone will drop in hardness from  T6 to around T2
> > after the weld, but if you just wait a few weeks it will eventually
> > regain most of it's hardness through precipitation hardening.
> > The most it can achieve by natural age hardening is a T5.
> > The only way to regain T6 is through re-heat-treating the aluminum.
>
> What's the best filler to get preciptation hardening in 6061? ER4043?

4043 is a better choice for color match, especially when getting parts
anodized.
5356 is stronger and harder.

The other solution to this is to use 7005 aluminum.
7005 is used for bicycle frame tubing because it has the same tensile
strength as T6-6061, but it's hardness is from it's alloy, not heat
treat, so you can weld it all you like.
It saves million of $ in bicycle manufacture.

Unfortunately it is only available in bike frame tube sizes as far as I
can tell.

These guys carry it

http://www.fairing.com

Actually checking their site it looks like they have some plate and bar
in 7005.

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