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Welding other than mild steel? ** Frank ** 07-01-2007
Posted by ** Frank ** on July 1, 2007, 12:14 pm
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I have a Lincoln WeldPack 100 using the recommended 0.035" innershield wire.
The manual states it can only weld mild steel but what does it take to weld
harder steel with this thing?



Posted by RoyJ on July 1, 2007, 12:36 pm
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Harder steels are either higher carbon or higher alloy. Either one can
give you troubles with poor penetration or brittle welds. Your welder
can be made to work on these steels but Lincoln does not want to be
responsible for training you on how to do them properly.

If you post a specific steel, thickness, and application that you are
trying to work on, someone here can give you hints on how to make it work.

** Frank ** wrote:
> I have a Lincoln WeldPack 100 using the recommended 0.035" innershield wire.
> The manual states it can only weld mild steel but what does it take to weld
> harder steel with this thing?
>
>

Posted by ** Frank ** on July 1, 2007, 12:46 pm
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> Harder steels are either higher carbon or higher alloy. Either one can
> give you troubles with poor penetration or brittle welds. Your welder can
> be made to work on these steels but Lincoln does not want to be
> responsible for training you on how to do them properly.
>
> If you post a specific steel, thickness, and application that you are
> trying to work on, someone here can give you hints on how to make it work.
>

Thanks RoyJ. I know it can weld harder steel as I fused my lockjaw pliers
together by mistake. I'll play around with the Lincoln some more and post
back when I have something more specific. Thanks again.



> ** Frank ** wrote:
>> I have a Lincoln WeldPack 100 using the recommended 0.035" innershield
>> wire. The manual states it can only weld mild steel but what does it take
>> to weld harder steel with this thing?



Posted by RoyJ on July 1, 2007, 1:29 pm
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The really scary one is welding common rebar. Most of the bar you would
see at a home store or otherwise laying around is either .4% or .6%
carbon. If you weld that and cool it rapidly, it gets very hard and
brittle. I do a demo where I weld it with a stick welder then plunge it
into cold water to chill it quickly. It will shatter like glass when
dropped on the floor from chest height.

** Frank ** wrote:
>
>>Harder steels are either higher carbon or higher alloy. Either one can
>>give you troubles with poor penetration or brittle welds. Your welder can
>>be made to work on these steels but Lincoln does not want to be
>>responsible for training you on how to do them properly.
>>
>>If you post a specific steel, thickness, and application that you are
>>trying to work on, someone here can give you hints on how to make it work.
>>
>
>
> Thanks RoyJ. I know it can weld harder steel as I fused my lockjaw pliers
> together by mistake. I'll play around with the Lincoln some more and post
> back when I have something more specific. Thanks again.
>
>
>
>
>>** Frank ** wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Lincoln WeldPack 100 using the recommended 0.035" innershield
>>>wire. The manual states it can only weld mild steel but what does it take
>>>to weld harder steel with this thing?
>
>
>

Posted by ** Frank ** on July 1, 2007, 1:59 pm
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Cool, I'll try that when I have some time.



> The really scary one is welding common rebar. Most of the bar you would
> see at a home store or otherwise laying around is either .4% or .6%
> carbon. If you weld that and cool it rapidly, it gets very hard and
> brittle. I do a demo where I weld it with a stick welder then plunge it
> into cold water to chill it quickly. It will shatter like glass when
> dropped on the floor from chest height.
>
> ** Frank ** wrote:
>>
>>>Harder steels are either higher carbon or higher alloy. Either one can
>>>give you troubles with poor penetration or brittle welds. Your welder can
>>>be made to work on these steels but Lincoln does not want to be
>>>responsible for training you on how to do them properly.
>>>
>>>If you post a specific steel, thickness, and application that you are
>>>trying to work on, someone here can give you hints on how to make it
>>>work.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks RoyJ. I know it can weld harder steel as I fused my lockjaw pliers
>> together by mistake. I'll play around with the Lincoln some more and post
>> back when I have something more specific. Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>** Frank ** wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a Lincoln WeldPack 100 using the recommended 0.035" innershield
>>>>wire. The manual states it can only weld mild steel but what does it
>>>>take to weld harder steel with this thing?
>>
>>


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