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Posted by on October 16, 2007, 4:34 pm
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I have one of those tractor-supply $300 no-floor 4x8 trailers, angle-
iron frame rails, no railing or secondary structure except angle-iron
cross-rails.
I have decided to not drill the frame, attached the bed with bolts
just next to the frame and used oversize washers.
What I would like to do is add some hooks and/or eyes for tying things
down, but thought I'd sample some opinions before breaking out the
welding equip.
The frame is welded (god, what horrible welds), so I'm not too
worried, but what would weaken the frame the least, if at all-
Brazing?
O/A welding?
The trusty MIG?
I know with any joint, using any of the above methods, the joint is
stronger than the base material, but I'm less sure about welding a
fitting onto the frame somewhere.
Thx-
Dave
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Posted by Ignoramus1841 on October 16, 2007, 4:36 pm
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> I have one of those tractor-supply $300 no-floor 4x8 trailers, angle-
> iron frame rails, no railing or secondary structure except angle-iron
> cross-rails.
>
> I have decided to not drill the frame, attached the bed with bolts
> just next to the frame and used oversize washers.
>
> What I would like to do is add some hooks and/or eyes for tying things
> down, but thought I'd sample some opinions before breaking out the
> welding equip.
>
> The frame is welded (god, what horrible welds), so I'm not too
> worried, but what would weaken the frame the least, if at all-
> Brazing?
> O/A welding?
> The trusty MIG?
>
> I know with any joint, using any of the above methods, the joint is
> stronger than the base material, but I'm less sure about welding a
> fitting onto the frame somewhere.
I would not attach hooks with welds. I would just bolt them to the
floor. These trailers cannot handle much weight anyway. I would also
suggest to revisit your use of washers, at least make sure that they
are VERY oversized.
i
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Posted by on October 16, 2007, 4:46 pm
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> > I have one of those tractor-supply $300 no-floor 4x8 trailers, angle-
> > iron frame rails, no railing or secondary structure except angle-iron
> > cross-rails.
>
> > I have decided to not drill the frame, attached the bed with bolts
> > just next to the frame and used oversize washers.
>
> > What I would like to do is add some hooks and/or eyes for tying things
> > down, but thought I'd sample some opinions before breaking out the
> > welding equip.
>
> > The frame is welded (god, what horrible welds), so I'm not too
> > worried, but what would weaken the frame the least, if at all-
> > Brazing?
> > O/A welding?
> > The trusty MIG?
>
> > I know with any joint, using any of the above methods, the joint is
> > stronger than the base material, but I'm less sure about welding a
> > fitting onto the frame somewhere.
>
> I would not attach hooks with welds. I would just bolt them to the
> floor. These trailers cannot handle much weight anyway. I would also
> suggest to revisit your use of washers, at least make sure that they
> are VERY oversized.
>
> i
My little dilemma is that the trailer floor is a 4x8 sheet of plywood,
and I want to carry 4x8 sheets of plywood and drywall.
I have 18 3/8 bolts total through the 3/4 plywood, with a nut,
lockwasher, 3/8 flat washer, and a 1/2 flat washer, all bolt positions
such that if the deck tries to shift one way, it will have a bolt set
against the frame opposing the movement on the opposite side of the
trailer.
The gross on the trailer is 1500lbs, tare is less than 300 with the -
plywood and paint.
If the welding seems sketchy, I'll bolt a metal bar 10 feet long or so
to the plywood under the trailer, and put eyebolts on the ends
sticking out. Then any force will pull that bar up into the bottom of
the trailer. Just seems to be a waste of a nice chunk of metal.
Dave
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Posted by Ignoramus1841 on October 16, 2007, 4:55 pm
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>> > I have one of those tractor-supply $300 no-floor 4x8 trailers, angle-
>> > iron frame rails, no railing or secondary structure except angle-iron
>> > cross-rails.
>>
>> > I have decided to not drill the frame, attached the bed with bolts
>> > just next to the frame and used oversize washers.
>>
>> > What I would like to do is add some hooks and/or eyes for tying things
>> > down, but thought I'd sample some opinions before breaking out the
>> > welding equip.
>>
>> > The frame is welded (god, what horrible welds), so I'm not too
>> > worried, but what would weaken the frame the least, if at all-
>> > Brazing?
>> > O/A welding?
>> > The trusty MIG?
>>
>> > I know with any joint, using any of the above methods, the joint is
>> > stronger than the base material, but I'm less sure about welding a
>> > fitting onto the frame somewhere.
>>
>> I would not attach hooks with welds. I would just bolt them to the
>> floor. These trailers cannot handle much weight anyway. I would also
>> suggest to revisit your use of washers, at least make sure that they
>> are VERY oversized.
>>
>> i
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> My little dilemma is that the trailer floor is a 4x8 sheet of plywood,
> and I want to carry 4x8 sheets of plywood and drywall.
Then you can have your tiedowns just make a circle under the bed, no?
You do not really need hooks?
i
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Posted by on October 16, 2007, 5:01 pm
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> > wrote:
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> >> > I have one of those tractor-supply $300 no-floor 4x8 trailers, angle-
> >> > iron frame rails, no railing or secondary structure except angle-iron
> >> > cross-rails.
>
> >> > I have decided to not drill the frame, attached the bed with bolts
> >> > just next to the frame and used oversize washers.
>
> >> > What I would like to do is add some hooks and/or eyes for tying things
> >> > down, but thought I'd sample some opinions before breaking out the
> >> > welding equip.
>
> >> > The frame is welded (god, what horrible welds), so I'm not too
> >> > worried, but what would weaken the frame the least, if at all-
> >> > Brazing?
> >> > O/A welding?
> >> > The trusty MIG?
>
> >> > I know with any joint, using any of the above methods, the joint is
> >> > stronger than the base material, but I'm less sure about welding a
> >> > fitting onto the frame somewhere.
>
> >> I would not attach hooks with welds. I would just bolt them to the
> >> floor. These trailers cannot handle much weight anyway. I would also
> >> suggest to revisit your use of washers, at least make sure that they
> >> are VERY oversized.
>
> >> i
>
> > My little dilemma is that the trailer floor is a 4x8 sheet of plywood,
> > and I want to carry 4x8 sheets of plywood and drywall.
>
> Then you can have your tiedowns just make a circle under the bed, no?
>
> You do not really need hooks?
>
> i
Yeah, but that just seems so tacky...
Dave
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> I have one of those tractor-supply $300 no-floor 4x8 trailers, angle-
> iron frame rails, no railing or secondary structure except angle-iron
> cross-rails.
>
> I have decided to not drill the frame, attached the bed with bolts
> just next to the frame and used oversize washers.
>
> What I would like to do is add some hooks and/or eyes for tying things
> down, but thought I'd sample some opinions before breaking out the
> welding equip.
>
> The frame is welded (god, what horrible welds), so I'm not too
> worried, but what would weaken the frame the least, if at all-
> Brazing?
> O/A welding?
> The trusty MIG?
>
> I know with any joint, using any of the above methods, the joint is
> stronger than the base material, but I'm less sure about welding a
> fitting onto the frame somewhere.