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Posted by z on March 27, 2008, 3:38 pm
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well, i've taken a welding night class at the local voc ed school.
now, i have a big lowes gift card burning a hole in my pocket. right
now, all i can see myself doing is car body repair (and i fully expect
to make a mess of it). so; should i buy the more expensive 110 volt
wire welder or the least expensive 220 volt wire welder? my garage has
110 volt 15 amp and the box on the welder or the website don't say
anything about whether it wants 20 amp or not; the garage also has a
220 socket (but i've never actually checked if it's live). while the
110 volt machine will be able to drag around and plug in more places
(if doesn't require 20 amp) is the 220 volt much more capable?
thanks for suffering through my ignorance.
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Posted by Grant Erwin on March 27, 2008, 5:16 pm
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z wrote:
> well, i've taken a welding night class at the local voc ed school.
> now, i have a big lowes gift card burning a hole in my pocket. right
> now, all i can see myself doing is car body repair (and i fully expect
> to make a mess of it). so; should i buy the more expensive 110 volt
> wire welder or the least expensive 220 volt wire welder? my garage has
> 110 volt 15 amp and the box on the welder or the website don't say
> anything about whether it wants 20 amp or not; the garage also has a
> 220 socket (but i've never actually checked if it's live). while the
> 110 volt machine will be able to drag around and plug in more places
> (if doesn't require 20 amp) is the 220 volt much more capable?
>
> thanks for suffering through my ignorance.
Don't buy a welder at Lowe's! Those are cut-rate welders. For example,
Lincoln makes a whole bunch of lower quality MIG welders, the result
of them buying up companies like Century, who sold welders at hardware
stores and auto parts stores. Don't buy a "pro-mig" or a "weld-pak"
or any Lincoln except one that starts with "SP". The SP-140 and SP-180
welders are just great.
You can start out with a 110 volt MIG welder, sure. But surely this is a
real good time to find out if your 220 circuit in your garage is live?
If you don't have a voltmeter you should - those are dirt cheap these
days. The 220 MIG welder isn't much heavier than the 110 if any, and
most places you will be welding will have a dryer plug. You can get
a lot done with a little 220 MIG welder and a couple of 50 foot extension
cords.
GWE
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Posted by Rob Fraser on March 28, 2008, 1:11 pm
Please log in for more thread options Grant,
I did not know Century made the cheapo's How long has that been in
place? Definite junk if from Century. Even the chargers made after 1990
suck I had one catch fire in the pit at Rt66.
Rob
>z wrote:
>> well, i've taken a welding night class at the local voc ed school.
>> now, i have a big lowes gift card burning a hole in my pocket. right
>> now, all i can see myself doing is car body repair (and i fully expect
>> to make a mess of it). so; should i buy the more expensive 110 volt
>> wire welder or the least expensive 220 volt wire welder? my garage has
>> 110 volt 15 amp and the box on the welder or the website don't say
>> anything about whether it wants 20 amp or not; the garage also has a
>> 220 socket (but i've never actually checked if it's live). while the
>> 110 volt machine will be able to drag around and plug in more places
>> (if doesn't require 20 amp) is the 220 volt much more capable?
>>
>> thanks for suffering through my ignorance.
>
> Don't buy a welder at Lowe's! Those are cut-rate welders. For example,
> Lincoln makes a whole bunch of lower quality MIG welders, the result
> of them buying up companies like Century, who sold welders at hardware
> stores and auto parts stores. Don't buy a "pro-mig" or a "weld-pak"
> or any Lincoln except one that starts with "SP". The SP-140 and SP-180
> welders are just great.
>
> You can start out with a 110 volt MIG welder, sure. But surely this is a
> real good time to find out if your 220 circuit in your garage is live?
> If you don't have a voltmeter you should - those are dirt cheap these
> days. The 220 MIG welder isn't much heavier than the 110 if any, and
> most places you will be welding will have a dryer plug. You can get
> a lot done with a little 220 MIG welder and a couple of 50 foot extension
> cords.
>
> GWE
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Posted by Grant Erwin on March 28, 2008, 1:31 pm
Please log in for more thread options I don't know when Lincoln acquired Century, but they surely did. I find it
very interesting and illuminating that when you go to lincolnelectric.com
and click on PRODUCTS and then navigate down to their MIG welders, that
their Weld-Pak line isn't even listed, indicating with great certainty
that the Weld-Pak stuff isn't made by Lincoln.
I'm less sure about the Pro-MIG line. I do know a couple of guys who bought
those and were very disappointed. Every SP I've used though has been great.
Grant
Rob Fraser wrote:
> Grant,
>
> I did not know Century made the cheapo's How long has that been in
> place? Definite junk if from Century. Even the chargers made after 1990
> suck I had one catch fire in the pit at Rt66.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>>z wrote:
>>
>>>well, i've taken a welding night class at the local voc ed school.
>>>now, i have a big lowes gift card burning a hole in my pocket. right
>>>now, all i can see myself doing is car body repair (and i fully expect
>>>to make a mess of it). so; should i buy the more expensive 110 volt
>>>wire welder or the least expensive 220 volt wire welder? my garage has
>>>110 volt 15 amp and the box on the welder or the website don't say
>>>anything about whether it wants 20 amp or not; the garage also has a
>>>220 socket (but i've never actually checked if it's live). while the
>>>110 volt machine will be able to drag around and plug in more places
>>>(if doesn't require 20 amp) is the 220 volt much more capable?
>>>
>>>thanks for suffering through my ignorance.
>>
>>Don't buy a welder at Lowe's! Those are cut-rate welders. For example,
>>Lincoln makes a whole bunch of lower quality MIG welders, the result
>>of them buying up companies like Century, who sold welders at hardware
>>stores and auto parts stores. Don't buy a "pro-mig" or a "weld-pak"
>>or any Lincoln except one that starts with "SP". The SP-140 and SP-180
>>welders are just great.
>>
>>You can start out with a 110 volt MIG welder, sure. But surely this is a
>>real good time to find out if your 220 circuit in your garage is live?
>>If you don't have a voltmeter you should - those are dirt cheap these
>>days. The 220 MIG welder isn't much heavier than the 110 if any, and
>>most places you will be welding will have a dryer plug. You can get
>>a lot done with a little 220 MIG welder and a couple of 50 foot extension
>>cords.
>>
>>GWE
>
>
>
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Posted by Grant Erwin on March 28, 2008, 1:36 pm
Please log in for more thread options Ah. Lincoln acquired Century and Marquette in 2003. Thus one of the two
off-branded Lincolns (Weld-Pak and Pro-MIG) came from Century and the
other from Marquette.
ref: http://www.lincolnelectric.com/corporate/about/history.asp
Grant
Grant Erwin wrote:
> I don't know when Lincoln acquired Century, but they surely did. I find it
> very interesting and illuminating that when you go to lincolnelectric.com
> and click on PRODUCTS and then navigate down to their MIG welders, that
> their Weld-Pak line isn't even listed, indicating with great certainty
> that the Weld-Pak stuff isn't made by Lincoln.
>
> I'm less sure about the Pro-MIG line. I do know a couple of guys who bought
> those and were very disappointed. Every SP I've used though has been great.
>
> Grant
>
> Rob Fraser wrote:
>
>> Grant,
>>
>> I did not know Century made the cheapo's How long has that been
>> in place? Definite junk if from Century. Even the chargers made after
>> 1990 suck I had one catch fire in the pit at Rt66.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>> z wrote:
>>>
>>>> well, i've taken a welding night class at the local voc ed school.
>>>> now, i have a big lowes gift card burning a hole in my pocket. right
>>>> now, all i can see myself doing is car body repair (and i fully expect
>>>> to make a mess of it). so; should i buy the more expensive 110 volt
>>>> wire welder or the least expensive 220 volt wire welder? my garage has
>>>> 110 volt 15 amp and the box on the welder or the website don't say
>>>> anything about whether it wants 20 amp or not; the garage also has a
>>>> 220 socket (but i've never actually checked if it's live). while the
>>>> 110 volt machine will be able to drag around and plug in more places
>>>> (if doesn't require 20 amp) is the 220 volt much more capable?
>>>>
>>>> thanks for suffering through my ignorance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't buy a welder at Lowe's! Those are cut-rate welders. For example,
>>> Lincoln makes a whole bunch of lower quality MIG welders, the result
>>> of them buying up companies like Century, who sold welders at hardware
>>> stores and auto parts stores. Don't buy a "pro-mig" or a "weld-pak"
>>> or any Lincoln except one that starts with "SP". The SP-140 and SP-180
>>> welders are just great.
>>>
>>> You can start out with a 110 volt MIG welder, sure. But surely this is a
>>> real good time to find out if your 220 circuit in your garage is live?
>>> If you don't have a voltmeter you should - those are dirt cheap these
>>> days. The 220 MIG welder isn't much heavier than the 110 if any, and
>>> most places you will be welding will have a dryer plug. You can get
>>> a lot done with a little 220 MIG welder and a couple of 50 foot
>>> extension
>>> cords.
>>>
>>> GWE
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> now, i have a big lowes gift card burning a hole in my pocket. right
> now, all i can see myself doing is car body repair (and i fully expect
> to make a mess of it). so; should i buy the more expensive 110 volt
> wire welder or the least expensive 220 volt wire welder? my garage has
> 110 volt 15 amp and the box on the welder or the website don't say
> anything about whether it wants 20 amp or not; the garage also has a
> 220 socket (but i've never actually checked if it's live). while the
> 110 volt machine will be able to drag around and plug in more places
> (if doesn't require 20 amp) is the 220 volt much more capable?
>
> thanks for suffering through my ignorance.